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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by crote »

subscribed wrote: post #44
ramon156 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I suggest you give fedora a go? It still feels like the most mature distro out there, but I can be biased

I used both Fedora and Ubuntu for years and couldn't point to the _better_ distribution. Maybe one thing I had with Fedora: I had to trail one major distribution behind, because going for the most recent releases always ended up hurting me. But that's just for work. I don't think I can move my gaming to Linux yet

Interestingly, I had the opposite experience.

With Ubuntu I kept running into bugs which had already been fixed upstream, or which were caused either by Debian's or Ubuntu's patches. And even filing regular bug reports was basically impossible: the Ubuntu packagers will almost certainly ignore it, the Debian packagers aren't interested in bugs happening in mutated versions of outdated packages in their unstable repo, and the upstream maintainers aren't interested in bug reports for weirdly-patched old releases.

After several attempts at getting bugs fixed (sometimes even sending complete patches) and getting no response for years I gave up on Ubuntu and switched to Fedora. Their policy is to ship the freshest upstream releases possible, with as few patches as possible. This means I can just directly file my bug reports at the upstream vendor, and a fix will usually land on my system fairly quickly.

I do notice that I am slowly using more and more Flatpak desktop apps: why bother with the middleman when you can trivially get the latest release directly from the upstream vendor?

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by dapperdrake »

bee_rider wrote: post #100
Esophagus4 wrote: post #59

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Having run Linux every day, I can say we’re in trouble if that is the reliable option :) (Agree that Liquid Glass is miserable, though.)

The Open Source ecosystem is a bit weird in that your system can be as reliable or not as you want, depending on what projects you follow. It really truly is a mixed bag in the sense that you can actually have a solid setup if you are happy with it being boring.

Incidentally, most people seem to want their computer to be the good kind of boring.

Especially non-tech people. Look at how popular Ubuntu VMs are with research chemists. And successful chemists tend to be highly technical.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by dapperdrake »

bigyabai wrote: post #93
delusional wrote: post #79

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> feels like a toy for kids. I wish unserious complaining like this wasn't mixed with actual technical criticism of software.

It is very serious. I love the way Catalina and Mojave looks; dark mode or light mode, it just screams "professional" at the top of it's lungs. Big Sur is, somehow, the exact opposite. Corners are rounded off as if they could hurt someone, and margins are padded more than a cell in solitary confinement. Space is wasted everywhere. It's Fischer-Price design philosophy and I'm hardly the only one to point it out. In a…

Touch and mouse interfaces simply are different. After over a decade of pretending otherwise there are now sufficiently many counter-examples.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by 9x39 »

mrandish wrote: post #167

What makes this even worse is that MSFT doesn't just do it with their "free", subsidized or bundled versions. They also do it to users who are using the full paid versions of the OS and Office. I paid an extra hundred dollars to get Windows Pro pre-installed on my laptop and a key reason I did so was to avoid this crap. But they still have all the same upsells and dark patterns. All Windows Pro gives me is the very c…

I hear where you're coming from. The corporate shops customize fleets with group policy and InTune, and it's a hassle to do the same one-off at home.

You might get traction with trying the IOT LTSC versions, which are often very stripped down. Used to be LTSB, then LTSC, but now on 11 I think you need to opt for IOT LTSC which is different than just LTSC.

IOT LTSC will have half the processes out of the box and less bullshit that you hate. It's possible apps that do OS checks will grump at you - Adobe Lightroom for example comes to mind, but it's an idea.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by blibble »

hereme888 wrote: post #161
jim_lawless wrote: post #150

I asked ChatGPT to write a Windows GUI C program that looks for a running instance of the onedrive EXE at regular intervals and terminates it while keeping a running log of the attempts in a scrolling window. It took a few iterations to get what I wanted and it was simple to compile with GCC. You can use a Powershell to see if onedrive.exe is running and kill it with the -force option to do something similar ( ps * o…

Why not just uninstall it via powershell scripts like those available from privacy.sexy? I gutted OneDrive so hard it will likely never come back.

it'll come back in the next windows update

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by ziml77 »

creato wrote: post #91
GeekyBear wrote: post #65

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When Apple forces users to use an online account to access their local Mac, and disables their OS unless they turn on iCloud on their Mac -- then you can claim equivalence between them.

I literally just got my first Mac computer a few months ago. I tried to set it up as a local account with no online account. I could not. Maybe it is possible and I just missed it. But either they don't allow it, or they have enough dark pattern bullshit to trick me, either way, it's the same as windows to me.

All you have to do is choose Set Up Later when presented with the screen for logging in with an Apple account.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by vee-kay »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #144
vee-kay wrote: post #35

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Windows 10 was indeed offered free worldwide to users already using older licenced versions of Windows. Microsoft even touted Windows 10 as last version of Windows. But it was typical bait-and-switch gambit by Micro$oft, and support for Windows 10 is ending in Oct 2025 (rejecting the pleas from thousands of companies worldwide to extend its Win10 support for longer while), because M$ thinks everyone will migrate to W…

W10 is actually still the majority of windows versions. You can get 1 year extended support by switching to an online admin login & syncing to ONeDrive or buying it (with $ or MS points - whatever that is) and businesses can by 3 x1 year of escalating priced support. Support for win10 ends on Tuesday (oct 14)! I know all this because my desktop that can easily run triple-A video games isn't good enough (secure boot)…

Then you'll be glad to know that you can bypass the TPM2.0 (Secure Boot) check that Win11 installation requires.

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/bypass-windows-11-tpm-re...

https://gist.github.com/asheroto/5087d2a38b311b0c92be2a4f23f...

So you can upgrade to Win11 even on an older PC. No need to pay through the nose for extended Win10 Support.

But in my personal experience, Win10 runs better on older PCs than Win11. I also prefer the Win1o0 start menu, to the Win11 one.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by sugarpimpdorsey »

dimator wrote: post #136
drbw wrote: post #86

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Out of the loop, why not?

An open source developer (the creator of Ruby on Rails and Omarchy Linux) made a political comment someone didn't like. Now there is a concerted effort by a small group of terminally online histrionics to ruin his life and get all his projects cancelled. The comment was apparently made on his personal blog and not in any official capacity.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by 9x39 »

firefoxd wrote: post #57
icameron wrote: post #42

OP doesn’t say why they are against free cloud backup, and it doesn’t matter, but (like everything else in Windows) there’s a registry setting you could change to disable the notification. I think it is ` HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Notifications\ Settings\Microsoft.SkyDrive.Desktop\Enabled = 0 (DWORD) ` https://www.urtech.ca/2018/03/solved-gpos-to-disable-notific...

Author here. I'm not against against free cloud back up. I was a Ubuntu One user before it shutdown. The problem isn't even that you can disable it via the registry. The problem is that looking at the presented options, you can basically choose "Yes" or "OK".

Yeah, Windows users are used to the setting schizophrenia (5-6 places to control things), but if we met Windows today in 2025 it would be ridiculous.
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