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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by badsectoracula »

izacus wrote: post #18

Can someone answer why is this ok on iOS and macOS but not Windows? They all provide backup via their own paid clouds and ask for an opt-in.

It is not ok on iOS or macOS or even Android or whatever else. The feature to have some online storage with backup is fine, IMO, but what is not fine is the OS nagging you to use that feature. This thing must be opt-in and only if the user themselves initiate it.

Also it should not be locked to a single online storage provider but use some sort of standardized protocol (or at least some pluggable mechanism) to allow any online storage provider - including using self-hosted options - to work with it.

This is how you make something that works for your users instead of taking advantage of them.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by bigyabai »

hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

macOS is absolutely awful about iCloud nag. If you try and use a Mac without an iCloud account, you'll get neverending popups and notifications begging you to go online. It's nearly as bad as Windows.

Neither GNOME nor KDE get anywhere near as bad. It's really only these commercial "holier than thou" operating systems that think they know best.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by rolph »

allears wrote: post #14
babas wrote: post #3

Windows enshittification has come a long way unfortunately. You still have some options to remove crap. I have had very good luck with o&o ShutUp10++ https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Also, if you want to stay on 10, 0patch is a good option. Changing the win11 UI to something more usable with StartAllBack is also recommended. $5 one-time fee.

keep paying again, to have a usable device is not a solution, its more like the MS endgame

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by DaveZale »

kotaKat wrote: post #8

Can we crowdfund someone going to the Microsoft campuses, heckling every employee nonstop on the grounds, and when security comes up, just tell them "maybe later"?

see what Neil Young has been saying about getting big corporations out of our lives. They skillfully buy out potential competitors and kill them to keep their monopolies.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by vee-kay »

grishka wrote: post #15

And Windows itself still costs money somehow, despite clearly acting as a free product.

Windows 10 was indeed offered free worldwide to users already using older licenced versions of Windows.

Microsoft even touted Windows 10 as last version of Windows.

But it was typical bait-and-switch gambit by Micro$oft, and support for Windows 10 is ending in Oct 2025 (rejecting the pleas from thousands of companies worldwide to extend its Win10 support for longer while), because M$ thinks everyone will migrate to Windows 11 (not free).

However, many Win10 users will remain on Win10 for years (just as they had stuck around with Win7/Win8 for years), and many will migrate to Linux or MacOS instead.

Microsoft will out find the hard way that people can be as stubborn as it can be.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Podrod »

I used to use Windows Backup with One Drive years ago but it just really pissed me off, especially with how My Documents is handled.

There was that time I discovered several GB of screenshots had been automatically saved to My Pictures from some setting they snuck into the printscreen screen grab tool and then that of course those were automatically uploaded to the cloud. After disabling the option it would sometimes reenable itself.

And game devs throwing random shit into My Documents was also fun. Ubisoft were terrible for this, after playing a game I'd notice a bunch of cache files they dumped into My Docs being uploaded. I mean putting save games and config files inside my docs is annoying enough, random cache files is just taking the piss.

Also windows backup would mess up my desktop between systems on occasion which was also very fun!

I disabled most of the shit but it was still annoying on occasion. Then a year or two ago I solved the problem by just using Linux for 90% of things, Mint at first but now Fedora, and grudgingly booting back into Windows for the other 10% of my needs.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by CamJN »

hedora wrote: post #23
izacus wrote: post #18

Can someone answer why is this ok on iOS and macOS but not Windows? They all provide backup via their own paid clouds and ask for an opt-in.

Does iOS constantly (multiple times a day) spam you if you don't enable backup? (I've had it turned on for so long that I honestly don't know what they do.)

I’ve never enabled iCloud backups and it has never pestered me about it after the initial iPhone setup process (the modern version of which doesn't even pester me then since it copies the setting from my last iPhone). I backup locally to my mac, which admittedly they made require a password each time now, which is a bit annoying, but it’s not asking me to enable icloud backups regardless.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by acomjean »

creato wrote: post #16
hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

MacOS is just as aggressive about turning on icloud as windows is with it's crap.

I’ll concur with Apple being way more aggressive about this as well. icloud and if you try to use music on you iPhone with your collection of music Apple Music is always being pitched. Though the windows default start menu is something to behold these days (or widget panel..). I deleted Apple Maps from my phone because I never used it, but nothing would free up the 10 gigs of data it was storing…. Sigh.

Linux is good enough to be a daily driver for most things these days.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by [deleted] »

hedora wrote: post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

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