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Occult books digitized and put online by Amsterdam’s Ritman Library

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Post by genrader »

throwanem wrote: post #143
ryandv wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was a facetious comment anyway.

Not perceptibly. In any case nothing in European esotericism has value save as a desperately confounded depiction of the sociosexual politics of its moment, and/or if you want to fail at becoming Rasputin. The Egyptians had the right of this one, so simply and straightforwardly that it really does take a proto-CIA, Ollie North ass fuckup like John Dee to confuse it again. But those who can fall for that kind of charl…

What did I just read

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Post by ryandv »

genrader wrote: post #170
staticman2 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you have posted this in a article about digitized christian bibles?

No, because one built a civilization and the other is actual nonsense

Just about as nonsense as Plato and the cave allegory, I agree.

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Post by MarkPNeyer »

dr_dshiv wrote: post #55

A good place to start is Cornelis Agrippa’s “Three Books on Occult Philosophy.” Agrippa was a lawyer and esoteric feminist (eg, he wrote “on the nobility and preeminence of the female sex”) and defended women accused of witchcraft throughout Europe. His “three books” gave birth to the “occult” nomenclature. Or my favorite, Marsilio Ficino. There is a statue to Ficino when you walk into the library. Ficino was hired b…

If the material world produces ideas, then there is no truth and ideas can’t be wrong: it’s all just, like, your opinion, man.

But if consciousness and ideas come first, the creation of the material world becomes a kind of game. The hard problem of consciousness is then confused, and replaced with a simpler question: why would pure consciousness that could play any game (ie explore any mathematical structure) choose to play within these laws of physics?

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Post by unsupp0rted »

elmomle wrote: post #130
ryandv wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is an old Pythagorean tradition that sensation or consciousness arises out of the interaction of the immaterial soul and the material body. That “three world” idea is echoed by Nobel Laureate Roger Penrose in his book “Road to Reality.” He talks about how the material world produces the world of consciousness which produces the world of ideas (including mathematics), which seems to produce the material world… Yo…

Also reflected in Vedic/Hindu philosophy: conscious experience (cetanā) arises from the interfacing of ātman (the immaterial self / soul) with śarīra (the physical body).

Well as long as there are words for it then it’s probably true.

It doesn’t actually predict or fix anything, even after thousands of years. But it’s hard enough to pin down that you can’t disprove any of it.

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Post by mvdwoord »

johtso wrote: post #160

Hermetically open? Where's the download link? It really frustrates me that fantastic projects like this end up only being made available via some "online catalogue" with tiled zooming and no option to download. Just stick it on the internet archive, and then voila, the data is actually open, everything gets automatically OCRed, and then we can do fun transformative things like the Internet Archive Book Images project…

Fully agreed. I thought it was just because I'm on mobile right now, but apparently not.

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Post by johtso »

johtso wrote: post #160

Hermetically open? Where's the download link? It really frustrates me that fantastic projects like this end up only being made available via some "online catalogue" with tiled zooming and no option to download. Just stick it on the internet archive, and then voila, the data is actually open, everything gets automatically OCRed, and then we can do fun transformative things like the Internet Archive Book Images project…

Pinned comment on their Youtube video 6 years ago "There is no option to download them. We will let you know if one day that will come!"

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Post by exasperaited »

DANmode wrote: post #155
exasperaited wrote: post #88

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Bit like NFTs then.

...I'll bite. How?

NFTs are the most metaphysical purchases possible. You're not buying a thing, you're buying a token that represents the idea of the thing, and its only value is that you're the person who paid for it and nobody else did.

If you disagree that this is an issue of metaphysics, fine, but google "NFT metaphysical" and you will see that there is an absolutely massive overlap between the world of woo-woo and the world of NFTs.

NFTs are, among other things, apparently cryptography for astrologers.

Grift squared.

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Post by staticman2 »

genrader wrote: post #170
staticman2 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you have posted this in a article about digitized christian bibles?

No, because one built a civilization and the other is actual nonsense

>>>No, because one built a civilization and the other is actual nonsense

If you believe the bible isn't superstitious nonsense then maybe you should say that directly.

"One built a civilization" describes a lot of religious books and seems to be a non sequitur.

Of course "The bible is like this occult book except the bible is true" isn't a very interesting argument.

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