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Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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What would these be useful for?

Same thing containers/jails are useful for on Linux and *BSD, without needing to spin up an entirely separate kernel to run in a VM to handle it.

MacOS apps can already be sandboxed. In fact it's a requirement to publish them to the Mac App Store. I agree it'd be nice to see this extended to userland binaries though.

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Okay, the AI stuff is cool, but that "Containerization framework" mention is kinda huge, right? I mean, native Linux container support on Mac could be a game-changer for my whole workflow, maybe even making Docker less of a headache.

It's cool but also not as revolutionary as you make it sound. You can already install Podman, Orbstack or Colima right? Not sure which open-source framework they are using, but to me it seems like an OS-level integration of one of these tools. That's definitely a big win and will make things easier for developers, but I'm not sure if it's a gamechanger.

All those tools use a Linux VM (whether managed by Qemu or VZ) to run the actual containers, though, which comes with significant overhead. Native support for running containers -- with no need for a VM -- would be huge.

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Apple's integration of AI into its MacOS is the one reason why I am considering a switch back to Linux after my current laptop dies.

This reads like the crotchety and persnickety 60-somethings in the 1990's who said the internet was a passing and annoying fad.

It is impossible to have a negative opinion of AI without silly comments like this just one step removed from calling you a boomer or a Luddite. Yes all technological progress is good and if you don’t agree you’re a dumb hick.

AI maximalists are like those 100 years ago that put radium everywhere, even in toothpaste, because new things are cool and we’re so smart you need to trust us they won’t cause any harm.

I’ll keep brushing my teeth with baking soda, thank you very much.

Re: Apple announces Foundation Models and Containerization frameworks, etc

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post #167

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What would these be useful for?

Same thing containers/jails are useful for on Linux and *BSD, without needing to spin up an entirely separate kernel to run in a VM to handle it.

People use containers server side in Linux land mostly... Some desktop apps (flatpak is basically a container runtime) but the real draw is server code.

Do you think people would be developing and/or distributing end user apps via macOS containers?

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Multi-user iPadOS when?

When they figure out how to make it not dent sales of individual devices. If you and your spouse could easily share one around the house for different purposes but still having each of your personal apps and settings, you might not buy two!

> If you and your spouse could easily share one around the house for different purposes but still having each of your personal apps and settings, you might not buy two!

I get it, but an iPad starts at $349; often available for less.

At this point, an iPad is no different than a phone—most people wouldn't share a single tablet.

Laptops and desktops that run macOS, Linux, Windows which are multiuser operating systems have largely become single-user devices.

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> New Design with Liquid Glass Looks like software UI design – just like fashion, film, architecture and many other fields I'm sure – has now officially entered the "nothing new under the sun" / "let's recycle ideas from xx years ago" stage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_%28user_interface%29 To be clear, this is just an observation, not a judgment of that change or the quality of the design by itself. I was gett…

I love that we're getting some texture back. UI has been so boring since iOS 7. Sebastiaan de With of Halide fame did a writeup about this recently, and I think he makes some great points. https://www.lux.camera/physicality-the-new-age-of-ui/

Open link and type into this box "physicality is the new skeumorphism"

Read on and:

They are completely dynamic: inhabiting characteristics that are akin to actual materials and objects. We’ve come back, in a sense, to skeuomorphic interfaces — but this time not with a lacquer resembling a material. Instead, the interface is clear, graphic and behaves like things we know from the real world, or might exist in the world. This is what the new skeuomorphism is. It, too, is physicality.

Well worth reading for the retrospective of Apple's website taking a twenty year journey from flatland and back.

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Some 15 years ago, A friend of mine said to me "mark my words, Apple will eventually merge OSX with iOS on the iPad". And with every passing keynote since then, it seemed Apple's been inching towards that prophecy, and today, the iPad has become practically a MacBook Air with a touch screen. Unless you were a video editor, programmer who needs resources to compile or a 3D artist, I don't see how you'd need anything o…

I don't use an iPad much, but it's been interesting to watch from afar how it's been changing over these years. They could have gone the direction of just running MacOS on it, but clearly they don't want to. I have a feeling that the only reason MacOS is the way it is, is because of history. If they were building a laptop from scratch, they would want it more in their walled garden. I'm curious to see what a "power u…

Its obvious isn't it? It will look like a desktop, except Apple decides what apps you can run and takes their 30% tax on all commerce.

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post #153

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If they implemented the Linux syscall interface in their kernel they absolutely could.

Aren't the syscalls a constant moving target? Didn't even Microsoft fail at keeping up with them in WSL?

Not Linux syscalls, they are a stable interface as far as the Linux kernel is concerned.

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If that’s the one reason, have you considered just… not using the AI features?

I find it offensive to have any generative AI code on my computer.

I find it offensive to have any generative AI code on my computer.

Settings → Apple Intelligence and Siri → toggle Apple Intelligence off.

It's not enabled by default. But in case you accidentally turned it on, turning it off gets you a bunch of disk space back as the AI stuff is removed from the OS.

Some people are just looking for a reason to be offended.

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