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Completely unrelated to safety, these vehicles don't look like they are aging well. They are all completely new but the ones I am seeing on the road already look a bit beat up. That finish on them and their general styling emphasize every minor blemish.
Completely unrelated to safety, these vehicles don't look like they are aging well. They are all completely new but the ones I am seeing on the road already look a bit beat up. That finish on them and their general styling emphasize every minor blemish.
The panels will not rust, which is the reason to avoiding scratches on other vehicles. You can beat the hell out of it and not have to care.
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exactly, Pedestrian safety of all american trucks is terrible, yet we don't hear about the big speeding wall that are the 'conventional' american truck... but apparently the cyber truck is a pedestrian predator they 'suddenly' discovered. Either do something about the terrible truck design... or shut up and tolerate the cyber truck like you tolerate the F150 EV or whatever. Fluff like this just pollutes the EV news s…
Well, no, not exactly, you literally just wrote another reply, right below, explicitly saying no, you didn't mean weight, you meant people talking about the slicing edges of the cybertruck. It's not the front shape or slicing people. It's the weight. I have no idea why you think anyone is hand-wringing about slicing people. No one thinks slicing people with hard edges is the problem. It makes sense if you're A) mad a…
> It's not the front shape or slicing people. It's the weight. I have no idea why you think anyone is hand-wringing about slicing people. No one thinks slicing people with hard edges is the problem.
Please read the links, I'll share them here again.
https://www.wired.com/story/a-rubberized-cybertruck-is-ploug...
https://www.transportenvironment.org/uploads/files/2024-10-0...
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> supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. I agree people tend to overreact and overblow expected consequences, but I mean, twitter's valuation is down 80%[0] and they haven't released anything new in two years, after exhausting the backlog of already developed things. It's not going great. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/09/30/elon-musk...
Valuation has no relevance to the layoffs. The valuation is down because brands left due to Elon's politics.
Are these "recalls" just simple over the air software updates? Just because car people are not used to this doesn't make it necessarily bad. Obviously no bugs are better than some bugs. But people here tend to know how software development works.
This always comes up. A “recall” is not a description of the remediation, it is a description of the problem. A recall is a public dangerous defect notice. The dangerous product version can no longer be deployed, existing systems suffering from the dangerous defect are identified, and then the version with those dangerous defects is removed from the market with all due speed by either refunding, replacing, or remedia…
Yes that's a much better term. In peoples minds "recall" means MY vehicle has to be transported somewhere to be fixed.
For the individual customer, a recall can be a massive frustrating hassle, which an OTA isn't. That doesn't change the severity of the issue, but a model that has 9 physical recalls to fix some brake issue, and 1 OTA update is going to be seen as a disaster, while a model that has 0 physical recalls and 10 OTA updates will be seen as a pleasure to own.
Recalls in consumers' minds are a frustration measurement more than a safety record. Most recalls are about very small/hypothetical risks, so the risk I want to avoid when I look at manufacturers recall history is the risk of having to fix my vehicle physically. Because that's a real/large risk, while the risk of it catching fire spontaneously could be catastrophic but is usually tiny.
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>I wonder if you exclude "recalls" resolved by software updates, for all cars, where it would rank then? Why have you put "recalls" in quotes? It gives the impression you think this makes it somehow lesser. The cybertruck, for example, was subject to a recall because the rearview camera wouldn't come up, but the mirrors are insufficient to back the vehicle up safely without the camera. That's a safety issue, irrespec…
The problem is that those issues shouldn't happen on a public road vehicle to begin with. Tesla's approach is shipping beta software to customers, and using them as testers. This is an insidious practice in modern software development, but is criminal when that software is running a 3-ton vehicle, regardless if it can be fixed with an OTA update or not. There are reasons why strict car safety regulations exist. You c…
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AFAIK these monstrosities are not road-legal in Europe, so you're unlikely to see them.
Saying that I’m not up to snuff with type approval is an understatement but I think for imports there‘a probably ways to play silly buggers with temp plates if you have the money. But if you’re the sort of persons who decides to import a cybertruck to the eu I don’t think that’s going to stop you.
Hell, I think you can drive for up to a year on non-eu plates before the car has to be locally registered as an import.
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This always comes up. A “recall” is not a description of the remediation, it is a description of the problem. A recall is a public dangerous defect notice. The dangerous product version can no longer be deployed, existing systems suffering from the dangerous defect are identified, and then the version with those dangerous defects is removed from the market with all due speed by either refunding, replacing, or remedia…
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> A recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle, equipment, car seat, or tire creates an unreasonable safety risk or fails to meet minimum safety standards. Most decisions to conduct a recall and remedy a safety defect are made voluntarily by manufacturers prior to any involvement by NHTSA.
> Manufacturers are required to fix the problem by repairing it, replacing it, offering a refund, or in rare cases repurchasing the vehicle.
So the person you're replying to seems to be correct, or is there another source that shares your claim that "the focus is, and always has been, on the physically give your car back to manufacturer part"?
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From the first paragraph of TFA: > The latest recall—the wedge wagon’s sixth this year—requires shop time, not an over-the-air (OTA) update.
So...one? This article is a hack job. I didn't see any positive commentary. Wired is cooked.
Dude, the thing with these things is that the breathlessness has already exhausted belief. Supposedly Tesla Y was a terrible thing, supposedly everyone was going to die in the heat under the Tesla tent, supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. Nothing happened. Everyone I know who owns a Tesla loves it. So I’m going to file this under “internet hates guy; tries to make it sound like he makes bad th…
> supposedly Twitter would die in 3 days without their staff. I agree people tend to overreact and overblow expected consequences, but I mean, twitter's valuation is down 80%[0] and they haven't released anything new in two years, after exhausting the backlog of already developed things. It's not going great. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2024/09/30/elon-musk...
Despite the fact that these predictions ended up being completely wrong, there seems to have been very little reflection from the people who were making them.