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Fly.io outage – resolved

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Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by hobo_mark »

huijzer wrote: post #170
cryptos wrote: post #162

Fly.io seems to be a bit of a mixed bag: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41917436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35044516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34742946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34229751 If a cloud platform doesn't really provide reliability, I'd say it's probably not worth it. You could better just rent a (virtual) server and save the cloud tax.

For experiments and hobby projects the value proposition is amazing. Where else can you spin up an independent instance for $1.94 per month?* *Note this is for an instance with only 256MB RAM ( https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ ), but it's definitely possible to run non-trivial projects on that. Rust-based web servers like Rocket require only about 10MB RAM. Basic PHP servers should also fit from what I can find.

One such microVM per month used to be within the free monthly allowance, is that not the case anymore?

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by akoculu »

cryptos wrote: post #162

Fly.io seems to be a bit of a mixed bag: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41917436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35044516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34742946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34229751 If a cloud platform doesn't really provide reliability, I'd say it's probably not worth it. You could better just rent a (virtual) server and save the cloud tax.

Also:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36808296

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by foldr »

benreesman wrote: post #82
redslazer wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tech is impressive and the pricing is attractive which is why we use them. I just wish there was less black magic.

I don’t always agree with @tptacek on social/political issues, and I don’t always agree with @xe on the direction of Nix, but these are legends on the technical side of things. And they’re trying to build an equitable relationship between the user of cloud services and the provider, not fund a private space program. If I were in the market for cloud services I’d highly prize a long-term relationship on mutual benefit…

I suspect that making a cloud service provider run reliably requires tons of grunt work more than it requires technical heroism from a small number of highly talented individuals.

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

#174

Post by victorbjorklund »

qeternity wrote: post #166
cryptos wrote: post #162

Fly.io seems to be a bit of a mixed bag: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41917436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35044516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34742946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34229751 If a cloud platform doesn't really provide reliability, I'd say it's probably not worth it. You could better just rent a (virtual) server and save the cloud tax.

I don't really understand the value prop of fly.io. They seem to have an impressive engineering team despite the outages, but is edge compute really something that 99.9% of devs need? There are tons of large companies that operate out of a single AWS region and those services are used by millions around the globe. It just strikes me as something that enables premature optimization right out of the box.

If half your customers are in new your and half in sidney it makes you app faster if you run it in both places.

There is a lot of things we do for our users that we don't need (no one "needs" SPA etc). But if it is easy to make your app faster for your users, why not?

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by oefrha »

huijzer wrote: post #170
cryptos wrote: post #162

Fly.io seems to be a bit of a mixed bag: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41917436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35044516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34742946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34229751 If a cloud platform doesn't really provide reliability, I'd say it's probably not worth it. You could better just rent a (virtual) server and save the cloud tax.

For experiments and hobby projects the value proposition is amazing. Where else can you spin up an independent instance for $1.94 per month?* *Note this is for an instance with only 256MB RAM ( https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ ), but it's definitely possible to run non-trivial projects on that. Rust-based web servers like Rocket require only about 10MB RAM. Basic PHP servers should also fit from what I can find.

There are plenty of better deals as long as you don’t limit yourself to big clouds and clouds with startup-esque landing pages frequently posted to HN. LowEndTalk may be the most well-known place for finding such deals.

(Not saying the typical cheap VPS on LowEndTalk has comparable PaaS features. Only responding to parent’s use case of a single cheap instance.)

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by victorbjorklund »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #174
qeternity wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand the value prop of fly.io. They seem to have an impressive engineering team despite the outages, but is edge compute really something that 99.9% of devs need? There are tons of large companies that operate out of a single AWS region and those services are used by millions around the globe. It just strikes me as something that enables premature optimization right out of the box.

If half your customers are in new your and half in sidney it makes you app faster if you run it in both places. There is a lot of things we do for our users that we don't need (no one "needs" SPA etc). But if it is easy to make your app faster for your users, why not?

And it is easier than AWS to deploy.

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by belter »

huijzer wrote: post #170
cryptos wrote: post #162

Fly.io seems to be a bit of a mixed bag: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41917436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35044516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34742946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34229751 If a cloud platform doesn't really provide reliability, I'd say it's probably not worth it. You could better just rent a (virtual) server and save the cloud tax.

For experiments and hobby projects the value proposition is amazing. Where else can you spin up an independent instance for $1.94 per month?* *Note this is for an instance with only 256MB RAM ( https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ ), but it's definitely possible to run non-trivial projects on that. Rust-based web servers like Rocket require only about 10MB RAM. Basic PHP servers should also fit from what I can find.

Sounds like a Lambda function....

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by input_sh »

huijzer wrote: post #170
cryptos wrote: post #162

Fly.io seems to be a bit of a mixed bag: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41917436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35044516 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34742946 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34229751 If a cloud platform doesn't really provide reliability, I'd say it's probably not worth it. You could better just rent a (virtual) server and save the cloud tax.

For experiments and hobby projects the value proposition is amazing. Where else can you spin up an independent instance for $1.94 per month?* *Note this is for an instance with only 256MB RAM ( https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ ), but it's definitely possible to run non-trivial projects on that. Rust-based web servers like Rocket require only about 10MB RAM. Basic PHP servers should also fit from what I can find.

Nowhere? Because that's a ridiculously low amount of RAM to offer even in your cheapest offerings?

You can easily get 4 GB of RAM for $5 from the likes of Hetzner or Hostinger, so that's 16x more RAM for 2.5x the price. One relatively unknown provider I have used in the past offers 2 GB of RAM for €3.6/month (if paid monthly, €3 if anually), so 8x more RAM for 1.5-2x the price. I'm sure I could find something even cheaper, but I'm just looking at providers I have personally used.

BTW that dropdown seems to be sorted cheapest > most expensive. If you go to the bottom of the list the price for that same VPS doubles.

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

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Post by andrew-jack »

beezlewax wrote: post #141
benhoyt wrote: post #8

My fly.io-hosted website went down for 5 minutes (6 hours ago), but then came right back up, and has been up ever since. I use a free monitoring service that checks it every 5 minutes, so it's possible it missed another short bit of downtime. But fly.io has been pretty reliable overall for me!

Do you mind if I ask what monitoring service that is?

Use https://pulsetic.com/

Re: Fly.io outage – resolved

#180

Post by nikodotio »

k__ wrote: post #168
qeternity wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand the value prop of fly.io. They seem to have an impressive engineering team despite the outages, but is edge compute really something that 99.9% of devs need? There are tons of large companies that operate out of a single AWS region and those services are used by millions around the globe. It just strikes me as something that enables premature optimization right out of the box.

It's basically the new Heroku with less lock-in, because it works with Docker. You get edge computing, autoscaling, and load balancing without additional configuration. Not as flexible as AWS, but also much easier to setup and maintain. But the reliability issues suck now and then.

This is precisely it. The ease of deploy, https domain configuration, scaling.

Additionally, having machines that turn off when not in use is easy to configure, which I never managed on AWS.

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