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Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by yardstick »

constantcrying wrote: post #115
oaiey wrote: post #113

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Unfortunately, life is not black and white. Even without knowing anything about graffiti culture, there is a border between defacing and improving. And graffiti artists are moving over that border back and forth. Some of the most beautiful art I have seen are graffiti

I have never seen a good looking graffiti which was defacing public property. Granted, I have seen competent images which obviously were commissioned by building owners. All of it was bad art though and immensely displeasing.

Have you seen any Banksy? Do you consider his work graffiti?

Most of his work is graffiti’d onto public property without permission.

https://www.artsy.net/artist/banksy

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by damsalor »

labster wrote: post #35
ghostly_s wrote: post #25

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[0] https://ga.de/imgs/93/8/5/9/3/0/9/1/9/tok_8596521c60eeaa53eea42eea57c8b7dc/w1200_h630_x662_y525_GA_85197421_2005565667_RGB_190_1_1_2d14a73e871971ed95a819ea6b69b342_1593349745_2005565667_77b22cacaf-f8bed87dc312e74a.jpg looks much nicer than a blank wall to me.

I don’t know, I doubt I would want a URL this long on my wall.

The aesthetics of qr codes are sublime

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by cm2187 »

Hugsun wrote: post #19
flemhans wrote: post #13

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I can also start a subculture about competing for the best type of bank robberies, doesn't make bank robberies a nice thing to do. But yeah fascinating

Implying that graffiti is as bad as bank robberies is wild.

I am not sure I agree. You are making the life a little worse to hundred of thousands of people by making them feel like they live in a trash city every day.

I am for tough penalties on the authors of grafitis. At least make them pay the full cost of cleaning them up plus heavy fines.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by tpm »

lifeofguenter wrote: post #103
flemhans wrote: post #13

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I can also start a subculture about competing for the best type of bank robberies, doesn't make bank robberies a nice thing to do. But yeah fascinating

Comparing Graffiti with Bank robbery is crazy. Its Art. I would like to understand why people take offense in it - especially if done on places that are so non-important.

Some of it can be art, but 99.9% is not, it's territory marking.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by culturestate »

tetris11 wrote: post #160
smokel wrote: post #140

My hart jumped when I initially thought that they had implemented an idea that I had once. Turns out MetaWindow is not an augmented reality display in the train's window, where one can read information on the scenery that one passes through while traveling. What is that city in the distance? When was that church built? How many cows are in that meadow? Stuff one has to know.

A public institution doing this, fine fire away. A private train company? This will be an obnoxious video ad space.

DB is still a 100% state-owned enterprise; it’s “private” in name only.

Sort of like Singapore Airlines, which is listed but majority-owned by one of Singapore’s sovereign wealth funds.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by ozim »

flemhans wrote: post #13
umpalumpaaa wrote: post #9

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If you dive into the graffiti scene a bit you will start to appreciate all those graffitis. The story behind some of them is super interesting. There is a lot of "competition", "collaboration", and group dynamics involved. It is truly fascinating. I was living in Cologne (Ehrenfeld) for a while in a place with awesome graffiti and every weekend there were people taking pictures "collecting" and documenting the graffi…

I can also start a subculture about competing for the best type of bank robberies, doesn't make bank robberies a nice thing to do. But yeah fascinating

If you want a realistic example look at football ultra fans.

There is whole subculture, competition and collaboration networks between fan groups.

Some call it bestial street fighting where people lose lives and health but some might find it fascinating…

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by probably_wrong »

panick21_ wrote: post #134
throwaway4good wrote: post #94

This is an international site and I think people don’t understand just how big Deutsche Bahn’s problems with delays are and how incredible dissatisfied its customers are. The situation with DB is really unique compared to its neighbors in any direction. While the tech described probably has merits, anyone who has been near DB lately would instinctively go: why are you doing this when you cannot get the basics right?

DB is a gigantic organization. Do you think it is reasonable for them not not make progress or advancement in anything as long as the ICE delays are not fixed? They can never change a train interior, improve the food menu, or 1000s of other things? This is a totally unreasonable suggestion. The reason for DB reliability problem is 50+ years of infrastructure neglect, fixing it will not be improved by shutting down ev…

Someone turned on the DB signal[1] so here I am.

> sometimes trains are late sometimes, but the trains themselves are great and travel in them is a joy.

"Sometimes"? Let me tell you about my friends in the German area of NRW. The one that commutes far away regularly gets stranded on the way because the trains arrive so late that there's no connection home till the next day and because, of the two lines that take her home, one is closed. The second one commutes within the city and has decided to buy a car because the SBahn was closed for over a year with a repair that took longer than planned. The other two don't even consider trains in their daily life. My GF at the time had a year-long line closure, we moved to a place with a year-long train closure and I'm living now in an area where my regular train won't run until November (assuming no delay).

Yes, DB trains are pretty nice on the inside. Quiet, too. But what good is a nice train that doesn't take me to where I need to go, or at all? If anything, I think those that don't rely on the trains daily fail to realize how bad the situation is. Ten minutes delay on the one ICE trip on holidays? Sure, whatever, it's fine. Ten minutes delay on a five minutes connection to work? Enjoy wasting half an hour of your life every other day, like I did during my studies.

Switzerland has cut DB off [2] and Scottish fans received warnings [3] about how unreliable German trains are. It is bad.

[1] The DB signal is like the bat signal for comments downplaying DBs issues, but you often don't see it because there's a "Signalstörung" and it shows up an hour later. They usually apologize for the inconvenience.

[2] https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/german-expat-news/deutsch...

[3] https://www.indonewyork.com/m/science/european-football-cham...

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Post by cm2187 »

doctor_eval wrote: post #114
yongjik wrote: post #109

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I'm from a country where they once called up the fucking Interpol when someone vandalized a subway car and ran away. There are many things I complain about my country, but this isn't one of them. You wouldn't admire it if you were in a coffee shop and someone decided to unload their artistic ejaculation on your MacBook. Public infrastructure belongs to the public, no single person is the owner, and you don't get to d…

Are graffiti artists not part of the public? What makes a billboard, for example, more legitimate than graffiti?

Planning permission.

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by portaouflop »

Symbiote wrote: post #79
TillE wrote: post #70

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I dunno about the entirety of Germany, but I don't think I've ever seen graffiti removed in Berlin, and there's a ton of it. It's fine, nobody cares.

Graffiti on trains in Berlin is very quickly removed.

Haha thanks for the light chuckle as I wake up

Re: Deutsche Bahn introduces "MetaWindow"

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Post by yau8edq12i »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #8

A startup with wrong product focus would be insolvent in a few months. Deutsche Bahn can rot for decades spending money on technology that would not make any difference when a quarter of its trains is delayed or cancelled.

A decades old national train company is about as far from a startup as can be. That's a really strange comment.
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