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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#171
post #62

META OK everyone. You might have noticed that Hacker News has gone downhill lately. A common pattern is for the number one comment to be some vaguely negative and uninteresting post. In this case, it's also an inflammatory post that wrongly blames the victim. I'm friends with Rachel and the stalker dude is real. I was uselessly harassed by him because I spoke at Extreme Futurist Fest. He's real, he's crazy, and somet…

>I'm friends with Rachel and the stalker dude is real I would keep in mind the possibility that she herself is sending out this stalker material. If she has a history of generating drama, as has been suggested by others from communities she's been previously involved in, creating a stalker is the perfect device. Her account of the stalker's tactics is quite extreme: I've never heard of any case where a cyberstalker h…

    she had a restraining order on HER for stalking! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14, @12:18PM (#39685675)

    and also from her own blog:
    >
    > Experiment Haywire's Blog
    > Sign up
    > Mar 22, 2009
    > Prometheus Burning threatens legal action against me for
    "stalking"
    > I hate that I need to share this with everyone but I feel that my
    > legal safety might be in danger and am making this post to ask for
    > advice. I am currently scared out of my mind.
    >
    > Remember the band that called me a "lonely wannabe poser with no
    > musical skill" and a "hypocritical talentless hack" after staging
    > public drama with me for publicity? The band that harassed me to
    > the point where I actually had to call my sick mother for help? My
    > mother was conservative enough to file a DMCA charge against this
    > band for posting a private email of mine to the public. While I
    did
    > not want this private email posted and felt an extreme sense of
    > violation I strongly disapproved of my mother's actions regarding
    > the DMCA. (an organization which I utterly despise) In the end my
    > mother was in critical medical condition and was simply trying to
    > get this band to leave me alone- yet when she brought the DMCA
    into
    > this I was furious.
    >
    > I recently emailed the band and apologized for the actions of my
    > mother. I mentioned that I liked their music and that I would like
    > to put the past behind us. I used to be on good terms with this
    > band. I was a constant promoter of their music and spun them
    > consistently as a DJ in NYC when nobody else had heard of them. We
    > had mutual friends and (as far as I saw it) absolutely no reason
    to
    > perpetuate any conflict between us. I planned to support them on
    > tour along with Caustic and The Gothsicles in Atlanta. I figured
    > that it would be a great time.
    >
    > Until they told me the following on a public forum:
    >
    > "We have saved every email and message you have sent to Nikki. We
    > have saved every message, bulletin, etc. you have posted that
    > mentions us and we have saved every post you ever made on these
    > forums and others that mention us. Your stalker behavior is well
    > documented by us and by our lawyer. We have not taken the steps to
    > get a PFA against you as of yet, but we have more than enough
    > documentation to do so when we feel it necessary." -Prometheus
    > Burning
    >
    > Just wow. I don't appreciate people making false accusations about
    > me and I certainly don't appreciate being threatened with a lawyer
    > for a crime that I did not commit. Most importantly though: do
    they
    > have any idea what stalking actually is? As someone who has been
    > stalked before (and I'm not just talking about ex-boyfriends
    > failing to leave me alone but an actual sociopath making constant
    > threats against the lives of me and the people dear to me) I am
    > strongly offended by the way this band has used the term
    "stalking"
    > to refer to my attempt at a peaceful resolution. Stalking is not a
    > joke. If you have ever been stalked before you know what it's like
    > to beg for your stalker to leave you alone only to be told not to
    > further engage him. If you have ever been stalked before you know
    > what it's like to walk into a public place in fear of your life.
    If
    > you have ever been stalked before you know that horrible sinking
    > feeling you get when your stalker contacts you. It is not a
    > pleasant feeling. (to say the least)
    >
    > Stalking is not something to fuck around with. Accusing someone of
    > stalking is a lot like accusing someone of domestic abuse. If this
    > person didn't stalk or abuse you then you are minimizing the
    > struggles of thousands of individuals who are stalked and abused.
    > Many of these people have emailed me in tears to confide. Yet now
    > this band is claiming that I am stalking them. What can I do? I'm
    > being threatened with legal action for a crime that I did not
    > commit. A crime that I myself have been a target of.
    >
    > At least there is some comic relief to this story. I was trying to
    > understand the motivation behind all of their harassment. At first
    > I didn't pay any attention to the messages I was getting from
    > friends who were telling me this band was now ripping off my vocal
    > style. I honestly didn't give a fuck because I had other things to
    > focus on. Yet when they started threatening legal action against
    me
    > for "stalking" I went to their myspace page. Behold.
    >
    > Did they rip off my vocals? I want to say no because my delivery
    is
    > a lot more punk rock but I couldn't help noticing that the lead
    > singer was now using my same vocal patterns, screaming/talking
    > style, word emphasis, etc. in their songs. This was not what was
    > most surprising to me though. What was surprising to me was that
    > these pseudo-occult types who were avid readers of Acidexia in its
    > blog form and readers of Generation Hex (the Disinformation chaos
    > magick anthology that you can find my writing in) were using every
    > concept I'd written about in Acidexia and Generation Hex for their
    > band.
    >
    > Their "influences" are as follows:
    >
    > Self Destructive Behavior
    > Sensory Deprivation
    > Transhumanism
    > Chaos Magick
    > Traumatic Childhood Experiences
    > Abusive Relationships
    > Bi-Polar Depression
    > Insomnia
    > Aleister Crowley
    > Panic Disorder
    > Vivid Dreaming and Nightmares
    > Clive Barker
    > The Black Arts
    > Robert Anton Wilson
    > Discordia
    > Genesis P Orridge
    > Timothy Leary
    > HR Giger
    > Tentacle Rape
    > Smoking crack while worshiping the Dark Lord
    >
    > With the exception of the tentacle rape and smoking crack it was
    > pretty much a word-for-word summary of Acidexia. Their lyrics
    > followed a similar rip-off mentality. Mother of Abominations? I
    was
    > writing about that when I was 17. The darker side of chaos
    magick?
    > Nope, never been there before! At this point it was just getting
    > hilarious and I started to see what was actually going on. This
    > band was trying to run me out by accusing me of "stalking" them so
    > people wouldn't see that they'd been ripping off my ideas with
    > their new album. Well here's some news for the entire occult
    > community: their new album is everything that I wrote about in
    > Acidexia before I even started Experiment Haywire.
    >
    > I'm also curious how much they actually know about chaos magick.
    > I'm not sure wearing a TOPY necklace counts as much of anything
    but
    > I could be wrong. This band wanted attention through having drama
    > with someone who wasn't well liked in the industrial scene. Now
    > they've got it. Again. I am sure they will enjoy the occult
    > attention too. Quit watering down chaos magick with your tribute
    to
    > 90's industrial. It's not good for the new paradigm.
    >
    > If anyone has any legal advice for me it would be much
    appreciated.
    > I apologize for having to post this but I'm not sure what else to
    > do. I am seriously freaking out.
    >
    > Thanks for listening,
    > Rachel Haywire
    >

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#172
post #99

The commenting here is interesting, as is the post. I have some general comments to make about cyberstalking and situations like this - but want to preface it with the disclaimer that I've never heard of Rachel before and cannot sit in any form of judgement on her . However, I was cyberstalked (and then RL stalked & harassed), so I know that it sucks and it can be dangerous. I have no idea what Rachel's stalker has d…

After doing a bit of googling, I believe what we have here is a set of borderline personalities that are unfortunately drawn together. They have plenty of outlets for their antics; we shouldn't be indulging them here.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#173
post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so shockingly inappropriate, I wish I could flag it twice. There is no reason to post information this personal, and completely irrelevant to the conversation here. I believe there is more to this story than the blog post indicates, but you have obviously created this account for malicious purposes. If anyone reading this has the ability to hellban a user, this would be an appropriate time to exercise your au…

Rachel Mendelson-Haywire-Marone does not _deserve_ ANY privacy. Why is that? Rachel MHM is responsible for a website which featured pictures of people nude and having sex on it. These photos were never public, never on the internet until she and a sugar daddy of hers _purchased_ them from a 3rd party. It took _considerable_ legal resources to get this website down, and this MAKES RACHEL MARONE THE WORST KIND OF STALK…

That is a comment from my stalker. Any traces on his location at Hacker News? His real name is Michael Rudra Nath aka. Jason Christopher Hughes. Can provide documentation from the authorities, case files, addresses, screen shots of his death threats, emails he sent me containing child pornography, etc.

-Rachel Marone

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry for making it sound like I think the situation is black and white. What I meant was was that the text of the email is a pretty clear bad policy. Anyway, on to the main point. You're using an example of how easy it is to throw out words and ignoring the fact that if this blog post is a lie it has serious ramifications on her integrity. So I feel justified calling it a strawman. This isn't quoting a 4chan thr…

> ignoring the fact that if this blog post is a lie it has serious ramifications on her integrity. Judging by some of the other posts about this "victim", I'm not sure her integrity is a concern. Supposedly she's done KickStarter before, and essentially just taken the money and not produced (Please, check these threads for the specific comments regarding it). At the same time, keep in mind that when I first came to t…

Ms. Jaeger:

It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes.

Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanit...

where you can see comments of complaint from its backers:

"If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post. 3 of 4 View Previous Comments

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        Erik Roy Tomren on September 26, 2011

        so when is this coming out? the hard copy version, not the download.
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        Cat on February 24

        It's a year after this posting, almost two years after this was funded, and I have yet to receive my hard copy of this album. Very displeased. :/
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        Steve Cross on March 15

        Is the hard copy ever going to appear. A further update would be nice. I am not very happy!!

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hunt for my stalker continues yet has been unsuccessful as of now. The FBI having bigger fish to fry. The police say that he is “good at what he does.” Can people like this be stopped if they cannot be found? http://experimenthaywire.net/is-there-a-solution-to-cybersta...

More unsubstiantiated claims from the same source are not really a good foundation for support. I have no bone in this fight, but it seems to me that at the very least, the issue is much more complex than she made it seem in her blog post, and there are a lot of pieces of the puzzle missing. My BS detectors were sounding the alarm, but they always do that when I read unsupported claims.

Ms. Jaeger:

It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes.

Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanit...

where you can see comments of complaint from its backers:

"If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post. 3 of 4 View Previous Comments

        Fb_profile_picture.thumb
        Erik Roy Tomren on September 26, 2011

        so when is this coming out? the hard copy version, not the download.
        1.thumb
        Cat on February 24

        It's a year after this posting, almost two years after this was funded, and I have yet to receive my hard copy of this album. Very displeased. :/
        Fb_profile_picture.thumb
        Steve Cross on March 15

        Is the hard copy ever going to appear. A further update would be nice. I am not very happy!!

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#176
she had a restraining order on HER for stalking! (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 14, @12:18PM (#39685675)

and also from her own blog: > > Experiment Haywire's Blog > Sign up > Mar 22, 2009 > Prometheus Burning threatens legal action against me for "stalking" > I hate that I need to share this with everyone but I feel that my > legal safety might be in danger and am making this post to ask for > advice. I am currently scared out of my mind. > > Remember the band that called me a "lonely wannabe poser with no > musical skill" and a "hypocritical talentless hack" after staging > public drama with me for publicity? The band that harassed me to > the point where I actually had to call my sick mother for help? My > mother was conservative enough to file a DMCA charge against this > band for posting a private email of mine to the public. While I did > not want this private email posted and felt an extreme sense of > violation I strongly disapproved of my mother's actions regarding > the DMCA. (an organization which I utterly despise) In the end my > mother was in critical medical condition and was simply trying to > get this band to leave me alone- yet when she brought the DMCA into > this I was furious. > > I recently emailed the band and apologized for the actions of my > mother. I mentioned that I liked their music and that I would like > to put the past behind us. I used to be on good terms with this > band. I was a constant promoter of their music and spun them > consistently as a DJ in NYC when nobody else had heard of them. We > had mutual friends and (as far as I saw it) absolutely no reason to > perpetuate any conflict between us. I planned to support them on > tour along with Caustic and The Gothsicles in Atlanta. I figured > that it would be a great time. > > Until they told me the following on a public forum: > > "We have saved every email and message you have sent to Nikki. We > have saved every message, bulletin, etc. you have posted that > mentions us and we have saved every post you ever made on these > forums and others that mention us. Your stalker behavior is well > documented by us and by our lawyer. We have not taken the steps to > get a PFA against you as of yet, but we have more than enough > documentation to do so when we feel it necessary." -Prometheus > Burning > > Just wow. I don't appreciate people making false accusations about > me and I certainly don't appreciate being threatened with a lawyer > for a crime that I did not commit. Most importantly though: do they > have any idea what stalking actually is? As someone who has been > stalked before (and I'm not just talking about ex-boyfriends > failing to leave me alone but an actual sociopath making constant > threats against the lives of me and the people dear to me) I am > strongly offended by the way this band has used the term "stalking" > to refer to my attempt at a peaceful resolution. Stalking is not a > joke. If you have ever been stalked before you know what it's like > to beg for your stalker to leave you alone only to be told not to > further engage him. If you have ever been stalked before you know > what it's like to walk into a public place in fear of your life. If > you have ever been stalked before you know that horrible sinking > feeling you get when your stalker contacts you. It is not a > pleasant feeling. (to say the least) > > Stalking is not something to fuck around with. Accusing someone of > stalking is a lot like accusing someone of domestic abuse. If this > person didn't stalk or abuse you then you are minimizing the > struggles of thousands of individuals who are stalked and abused. > Many of these people have emailed me in tears to confide. Yet now > this band is claiming that I am stalking them. What can I do? I'm > being threatened with legal action for a crime that I did not > commit. A crime that I myself have been a target of. > > At least there is some comic relief to this story. I was trying to > understand the motivation behind all of their harassment. At first > I didn't pay any attention to the messages I was getting from > friends who were telling me this band was now ripping off my vocal > style. I honestly didn't give a fuck because I had other things to > focus on. Yet when they started threatening legal action against me > for "stalking" I went to their myspace page. Behold. > > Did they rip off my vocals? I want to say no because my delivery is > a lot more punk rock but I couldn't help noticing that the lead > singer was now using my same vocal patterns, screaming/talking > style, word emphasis, etc. in their songs. This was not what was > most surprising to me though. What was surprising to me was that > these pseudo-occult types who were avid readers of Acidexia in its > blog form and readers of Generation Hex (the Disinformation chaos > magick anthology that you can find my writing in) were using every > concept I'd written about in Acidexia and Generation Hex for their > band. > > Their "influences" are as follows: > > Self Destructive Behavior > Sensory Deprivation > Transhumanism > Chaos Magick > Traumatic Childhood Experiences > Abusive Relationships > Bi-Polar Depression > Insomnia > Aleister Crowley > Panic Disorder > Vivid Dreaming and Nightmares > Clive Barker > The Black Arts > Robert Anton Wilson > Discordia > Genesis P Orridge > Timothy Leary > HR Giger > Tentacle Rape > Smoking crack while worshiping the Dark Lord > > With the exception of the tentacle rape and smoking crack it was > pretty much a word-for-word summary of Acidexia. Their lyrics > followed a similar rip-off mentality. Mother of Abominations? I was > writing about that when I was 17. The darker side of chaos magick? > Nope, never been there before! At this point it was just getting > hilarious and I started to see what was actually going on. This > band was trying to run me out by accusing me of "stalking" them so > people wouldn't see that they'd been ripping off my ideas with > their new album. Well here's some news for the entire occult > community: their new album is everything that I wrote about in > Acidexia before I even started Experiment Haywire. > > I'm also curious how much they actually know about chaos magick. > I'm not sure wearing a TOPY necklace counts as much of anything but > I could be wrong. This band wanted attention through having drama > with someone who wasn't well liked in the industrial scene. Now > they've got it. Again. I am sure they will enjoy the occult > attention too. Quit watering down chaos magick with your tribute to > 90's industrial. It's not good for the new paradigm. > > If anyone has any legal advice for me it would be much appreciated. > I apologize for having to post this but I'm not sure what else to > do. I am seriously freaking out. > > Thanks for listening, > Rachel Haywire >

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#177

Since HN is about entrepreneurship, I think this article raises good questions, such as, how do you deal when someone makes emotionally-loaded claims against your company in the early hours of a Saturday, including multiple submissions to Reddit using a sockpuppet account?

Call an emergency meeting with the head of your marketing dept. and start hashing out a blog post, I would assume.

Best short-term reply is probably something agreeing that the quoted response from their representative, if accurate and complete, was dangerously vague for a matter as critical as account suspension for TOS violation, which they take very seriously for important reasons, yadda yadda. This matter will be investigated, and we hope to resolve to everyone's satisfaction. Love, CEO.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#178
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm, this reddit account (brokenrobot23) http://www.reddit.com/user/brokenrobot23 was created a few hours ago in support of Rachel, as was your account (blingbling23), quite the coincidence, isn't it?

Even so I haven't seen one link backing up the "quote" from reddit. If it was true someone would have provided some sort of verification by now.

Yeah, this is weird that blingbling23 here and brokenrobot23 on reddit are both less than a day old.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#179
I am also a victim of this guy. He harassed me off and on for years. He turned on me after I told him "no" when he asked me to do a favor for him I didn't feel comfortable doing. That was all it took to find myself on his shitlist. While we were "friends" I got to listen to him brag about all the horrible things he'd done to people, mostly women he dated, after they decided to tell him "no" or kick him out of their lives once they realized how crazy he is. He would show me how he was getting so-and-so fired from their job by spoofing emails with child pornography in them to the all@ email aliases of their employers from libraries and hacked DNS servers. He showed me how he made money selling pirated ebooks and sheet music on ebay. And he'd brag about using sockpuppets to build up fake credibility because it's all hearsay on the Internet where the credibility of consensus is only second to hard evidence.

Don't fall for this guy's sockpuppet spam. This is exactly the kind of thing he was doing on Kickstarter, and has done on Reddit, Hackernews, here, Rachel's various blogs, and yes, all the way back to the days of Livejournal being the amazing mecca of social networking.

His name is Jason Christopher Hughes AKA Michael Nath AKA Thylacine AKA antisense is over 40 years old. He's been at this game for a long, long time and has made social engineering an art form.

Most of the posts in here that look like layers of confirmation of "facts" about Rachel are all the same person posting through TOR or I2P. If Slashdot admins were to verify the IPs of most of the other posts attacking Rachel, they'll see a wall of TOR and I2P exit nodes, just as any of us who have checked out the logs of his behavior in the past have been able to see. You let this guy brainwash you into believing all his propaganda against Rachel, and you've just weaponized yourself in his favor. Please do not. Keep an open mind. Use your critical thinking skills. Do not allow the emotional shock value of the propaganda to interfere with your thinking. I know it's hard. It's especially hard because Rachel is a very reactionary individual. She has that rockstar vibe to her, and she doesn't take crap from anyone. That makes her an easy target, clearly, because anytime the "moral high ground" seems a little shaky, it's a vulnerability in her defense against her cyberstalker.

He's been stalking several of us for years. Most of us don't ever talk about him using our typical logins because he'll shit up the administration and our posts until we get banned. He's phenomenally good at turning people against his victims.

Unfortunately it's hard to collect evidence against him. He only attacks maybe 10 or so people at a time. He's never going to become a priority for the FBI or local police because they either have bigger fish to fry or don't understand how to handle him in a way that his behavior can be documented. Making all of this public is a big push for all of us who he's been harassing for over a decade. We're tired of it. We want it to end. We need help.

Not your personal army and all that, sure, but it would be nice if we weren't alone in trying to bring this guy down.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

#180
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of her responses: "As you all know I have a rockin' tight ass, a successful project on Kickstarter that you've all funded, and a cyberstalker that goes by the name of FrankSinatraDirtyTalker1915@comcast.net. I originally met "Frank" back in College, where we dated for a bit. I should point out that he's not an old man, as his username might imply, but rather someone who is simply obsessed with Frank Sinat…

I'm pretty sure you just made that up. EDIT : Nevermind, you just took it from http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/s97g4/banned_fro... , an obvious reddit troll.

Oh thank you SO much for recognizing that. Yes, that is one of her stalker's more popular bits of copypasta.
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