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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by MVissers »

upwardbound wrote: post #88
altpaddle wrote: post #42

I guess the main question is who else will be on the board and to what degree will this new board be committed to the Open AI charter vs being Sam/MSFT allies. I think having Sam return as CEO is a good outcome for OpenAI but hopefully he and Greg stay off the board. It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission. I was a bit alarmed by the…

> The CEO should not be allowed to try and orchestrate their own board as that would remove all checks against their decisions. Exactly. This is seriously improper and dangerous. It's literally a human-implemented example of what Prof. Stuart Russell calls "the problem of control". This is when a rogue AI (or a rogue Sam Altman) no longer wants to be controlled by its human superior, and takes steps to eliminate the…

Let’s not creating AI with our biases and thought patterns.

Oh wait…

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by dragonwriter »

reustle wrote: post #116
meetpateltech wrote: post #80

Emmett Shear on Twitter: I am deeply pleased by this result, after ~72 very intense hours of work. Coming into OpenAI, I wasn’t sure what the right path would be. This was the pathway that maximized safety alongside doing right by all stakeholders involved. I’m glad to have been a part of the solution. https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598

I'm probably reading too much into it, but interesting that he specifically called out maximizing safety.

"Safety" has been the pretext for Altman's lobbying for regulatory barriers to new entrants in the field, protecting incumbents. OpenAI's nonprofit charter is the perfect PR pretext for what amounts to industry lobbying to protect a narrow set of early leaders and obstruct any other competition, and Altman was the man executing that mission, which is why OpenAI led by Sam was a valuable asset for Microsoft to preserve.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by loveparade »

shubhamjain wrote: post #162

At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…

> I think only a minority of the general public truly cares about AI Safety, the rest are happy seeing ChatGPT helping with their homework

Not just the public, but also the employees. I doubt there are more than a handful of employees who care about AI Safety.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by randomsoutham »

It's incredible how the company behind of one the most promising technologies out there was about to fail because of bad politics.

Seems likely that it won't be there by OpenAI for too long. MS have a tendency to break up acquisitions so this gives me hope.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by dragonwriter »

qualifiedai wrote: post #70

Larry Summers???? What he has to do with AI??

> Larry Summers???? What he has to do with AI??

Nothing, he has to do with political connections, and OpenAI's main utility to Microsoft is as hand puppet for lobbying for the terms it wants for the AI marketplace in the name of OpenAI's nominal "safety" mission.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by zerocrates »

arduanika wrote: post #98

Larry Summers is an excellent pick to call out bullshit and moderate any civil war, such as this EA - e/acc feud. Kissinger (R, foreign policy) once said that Summers (D, economic policy) should be given an advisory post in any WH administration, to help shoot down bad ideas.

Funny you mention him, as my first thought was that Summers will have a basically equivalent function on the board as Kissinger did at Theranos.

Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO

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Post by behnamoh »

cheeze wrote: post #124
meetpateltech wrote: post #80

Emmett Shear on Twitter: I am deeply pleased by this result, after ~72 very intense hours of work. Coming into OpenAI, I wasn’t sure what the right path would be. This was the pathway that maximized safety alongside doing right by all stakeholders involved. I’m glad to have been a part of the solution. https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598

I wonder what he gets out of this. Ceo for a few days? Do they pay him for 3 days of work? Presumably you'd want some minimum signing bonus in your contract as a Ceo?

he’ll put CEO of OAI on his resume
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