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I think it was here, where I read that the optimal dosage for melatonin was 0.3 mg (300 micrograms). The smallest OTC dosage you can get, is 1mg, and they sell 10mg pills. When I switched from 10mg to 0.3mg, my sleep improved drastically . Also, I stopped getting those really weird dreams. But I don't like taking stuff, and ended up stopping completely, a long time ago.
Is there a source for the 0.3mg, because the most sleep supplements around here I've tried seem to have at least 0.5mg, or at least 1mg. They contain a mixture of other things as well, like magnesium, leonurus cadiaca, humulus lupulus. Melatonin only supplements mostly seem to start at around 2mg. There may be few of them at 1mg. I can't tell if I've personally had any effects from melatonin specifically though. Some…
Melatonin as a treatment for food waste
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I asked a pharmacy in Reykjavik if they sold it, or Tylenol PM, and the pharmacist reacted like I'd asked to buy a brick of cocaine.
Never take Tylenol PM to sleep, unless you also have a reason to need a painkiller (acetaminophen). Acetaminophen is toxic to the liver and can cause liver failure if overdosed. A regular diphenhydramine (Benadryl) is the just the PM part without the extra risk (except that has its own risks).
cumulative exposure to dihenhydramine is linked to dementia so it also shouldn't be used regularly
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I’ve found if I chew the pill into a fine powder and let it dissolve under your tongue, then I consistently fall asleep in 15-20 mins. Definitely makes sense that absorption is faster than simply taking orally.
You should be able to fall asleep in less than 15-20 minutes without using melatonin as well.
I was told this by a doctor and just couldn't believe it was true, turns out good habits like consistent wake time and winding down well before lying in bed are super important.
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I think it was here, where I read that the optimal dosage for melatonin was 0.3 mg (300 micrograms). The smallest OTC dosage you can get, is 1mg, and they sell 10mg pills. When I switched from 10mg to 0.3mg, my sleep improved drastically . Also, I stopped getting those really weird dreams. But I don't like taking stuff, and ended up stopping completely, a long time ago.
>The smallest OTC dosage you can get, is 1mg There are 0.3mg pills available, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Melatonin-300-Capsules...
"life extension melatonin" reminds me how sad the regulation around "supplements" and claims about them are in the US
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve found if I chew the pill into a fine powder and let it dissolve under your tongue, then I consistently fall asleep in 15-20 mins. Definitely makes sense that absorption is faster than simply taking orally.
You should be able to fall asleep in less than 15-20 minutes without using melatonin as well.
Yes. And that's the reason us insomniacs are taking melatonin.
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10-25mg seems really high. UK NHS advice is 2mg for sleep, 3mg for jet lag, w/advice it can be increased to up to 10mg if you don't get the desired.effect at lower doses. For my part, 3mg leaves me totally ruined (exhausted, lethargic, worse than being ill) the following day. 1mg seems to improve my sleep, but I can totally believe less would work too. I will certainly not go higher. UK is weird with this - I can ord…
I can tolerate 3 mg very well, 5 mg seems to be the bridge too far, where I wake up exhausted and lethargic. I experimented with higher doses, such as 15 mg. They worked like sledgehammer to the forehead, with a weird feeling the next day. Not recommended. A good sleep mask and ear plugs are better than increasing dosage of melatonin, at least for me. Here in CZ, melatonin is OTC.
In addition to the same 3mg, I ask my Google Home (the first "mini tower", not the puck) to "play the sounds of the ocean" + run an older, slightly noisy purifier (mainly for the white noise, have other much better filtering purifiers in the house that are just too quiet!). Putting my phone away, after a few pages of a novel in my Kindle 11 SE (warmest setting ) I'm dead asleep.
My level of tiredness in the morning seems mainly linked to hours of sleep + how heavy I lifted the day/s before.
(I should trial 1mg as well.)
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#177Pretty funny wording:
> fruit fared better with melatonin treatment than did vegetables, which remained more susceptible to the cold (though, chilling injury was still reduced in some vegetables such as bell peppers and cucumbers by up to 24%.)
I wonder whether this actually only works on biological fruits (bell peppers and cucumbers are fruits biologically).
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve found if I chew the pill into a fine powder and let it dissolve under your tongue, then I consistently fall asleep in 15-20 mins. Definitely makes sense that absorption is faster than simply taking orally.
You should be able to fall asleep in less than 15-20 minutes without using melatonin as well.
I can probably count on one hand during my adult life where that’s been the case. Is that really the reality for most?
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I think it was here, where I read that the optimal dosage for melatonin was 0.3 mg (300 micrograms). The smallest OTC dosage you can get, is 1mg, and they sell 10mg pills. When I switched from 10mg to 0.3mg, my sleep improved drastically . Also, I stopped getting those really weird dreams. But I don't like taking stuff, and ended up stopping completely, a long time ago.
>The smallest OTC dosage you can get, is 1mg There are 0.3mg pills available, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Melatonin-300-Capsules...
Cool but also really funny how much more expensive it is to get a much lower effective dose. 60 pieces of 10mg are $2.70
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#180Upper dose for melatonin has not been established, generally considered safe. https://ajac.substack.com/p/melatonin for references. I'm on 40mg every night, gives me deep restful sleep.
That's pretty high, I would not risk it due to the slight correlation with dementia later on.
Interestingly, the opposite might be true: https://www.pitt.edu/pittwire/accolades-honors/melatonin-alz...