Do we live in a society without a counterculture?

Post by Jensson » Wed, Feb 01, 2023, 1:28 PM UTC

hutzlibu wrote: post #157

gbN025tt2Z1E2E4 wrote: post #133

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They are values which promote the functioning of a healthy and balanced society with people less inclined and/or enthusiastically supported for being inherently self-centered and self-destructive. Endless drug epidemics are a very prominent and visual symptom of the damage rampant degeneracy has inflicted upon society and that in general, things as they are currently are NOT alright.

So do you believe gay people for example, are a threat to a healthy and balanced society? edit: Oh and conservative culture in my land means mostly lots of alcohol. The first time I vomitted from alcohol was as a teenager on a catholic wine fest, by wine gifted to us from the church. There might be conservatives, that are free from drugs, but mostly they just like other drugs. Drugs are a big problem in todays societ…

Post by throwaway4aday » Wed, Feb 01, 2023, 1:31 PM UTC

chasd00 wrote: post #100

Given the accessibility to like minded groups of people made possible by the Internet I’d say we’re all the counter culture. Which I suppose implies no counter culture. Edit: after reading another comment I think digital disconnection is the new counter culture

Post by kderbyma » Wed, Feb 01, 2023, 1:32 PM UTC

pibechorro wrote: post #163

rcarr wrote: post #59

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I agree with this, I had a friend who lived in a caravan in a forest in the north of England with a bunch of hippies. They'd throw parties now and again and there were tons of them. There are loads of people doing van life for various reasons or something similar like bike packing or living on a homestead. These people are counter culture but you won't hear about them because most of them aren't hustling to become so…

Yup, people living it dont brag about it, gotta keep the poser johnny come lately herds away from ruining it. I have been living and crusing on a sailboat, mosty off anchor rent free when I can, surrounded by many other sailors who rather not see it ruined by Instagram. The key here is the counter culture starts and ends in your heart. Get out and break out of the matrix.

Post by kderbyma » Wed, Feb 01, 2023, 1:33 PM UTC

lp4vn wrote: post #140

adamcharnock wrote: post #20

I'm pretty sure I've been existing in a number of counter-cultures for the last decade or two. These have been either linked to my identity or physical location, I couldn't have properly experienced them through consuming media on the subject. Certainly all required an active choice and/or lifestyle change on my part. Maybe people mean something else by counter-culture, but here are examples from my life: - Freelanci…

I don't think that what you described counts as counterculture in what the people in general understand as the "societal" meaning of the term. All societies in all epochs had their share of people living off of the grid or in hedonistic and socially repproachable ways. A counterculture is a set of social norms that clash with the establishment to the point of generating a credible threat of replacing it and creating…

Post by goodpoint » Wed, Feb 01, 2023, 1:35 PM UTC

drewcon wrote: post #114

I’m going to get flamed for this but at this point the closest we’re getting to counter culture is the exact opposite… “Trads”. Young people with super traditional values doing exactly the opposite of most of what you just listed. No one would seriously suggest the trendiest most mainstream supported or glorified lifestyles (van life, queerness, gig work) are counter culture…that IS the culture; there’s very little c…