I don’t want to be an internet person • Hacker News Board

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by jacooper » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 5:52 PM UTC

suslik wrote: post #161

ClassyJacket wrote: post #138

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Refusing to play ridiculous pronoun games is not hurting your respect and dignity. It is not anybody else's problem or responsibility to participate in this.

There is a difference between the usage of 'xer' by an edgy teenager who identifies as something incomprehensible vs, for instance, using 'she/her' to refer to a biological male that made a conscious, adult decision to transition to female. If one decides to change their first name, they have every right for their friends and family to respect that. If I wanted to be called, for instance, Vladimir instead of Richard,…

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by clnq » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 5:56 PM UTC

buildsjets wrote: post #15

"All my friends are online. Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet?" Yes. But they really weren't your friends to begin with, so it doesn't matter.

What qualifies as "a friend" to you?

I find it's much easier to make friends online. But we seem to have different definitions for friendship.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:01 PM UTC

boppo1 wrote: post #114

buildsjets wrote: post #15

"All my friends are online. Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet?" Yes. But they really weren't your friends to begin with, so it doesn't matter.

I don't really have friends anymore. The random strangers on HN and other boards are the closest thing I have to friends now. I have a handful of on-off DMs with strangers on instagram. I'm not an 'internet person', but the social selection near me just doesn't gel with who I grew up to be. Interests/hobbies/politics etc. Hopefully I can get money together to move soon and find people with whom I fit.

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by endorphine » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:02 PM UTC

fleddr wrote: post #109

A great way to test the difference between the online and offline world is to boast about something you accomplished in a family gathering, say thanksgiving. "I scored 3 goals in last weekend's game". That's wonderful! (nobody truly cares, but it's still recognized and celebrated.) "I got 40 likes on my last tweet" ??? "Wait, it gets better: 20 people watched me play a game. Had to stay up until 4AM but still, worth…

Pretty sure the reactions you'll get in these occasions depend wildly on the people you are with at the time.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:02 PM UTC

sharkjacobs wrote: post #154

polishdude20 wrote: post #152

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I wouldn't say it's pathetic. People try and get power/control/ a sense of meaning anywhere they can. This man probably didn't have a great life and found his only refuge and belonging to be in IRC. The alternative may have been to confront harsh reality and realize you're nobody to noone.

"pathetic" means pitiable, from the greek "pathos" > This man probably didn't have a great life and found his only refuge and belonging to be in IRC. The alternative may have been to confront harsh reality and realize you're nobody to noone I think this fits the bill

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by cpif » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:04 PM UTC

I'm a bit perplexed by the title. The article distinguishes between an early, anonymous, unregulated internet culture -- which the NFT club seems to resemble -- and contemporary internet people who "decided to make the internet boring."

As cartoonish as it is, I buy that distinction. But usually, when people make it, they're making a plea for the old internet. The writer of this article, however, doesn't seem to be doing that. The milady community feels, "a little bit, like that internet from 1995"; it is unlike social media communities where you are "constantly performing your personality" and "Liking is a personal endorsement." Again, when people make that distinction, they're usually writing against likes, personality, and "iPhone photography of yourself."

So regarding the title: does she not want to be either type of internet person? Or is "normie" social media engagement ok?

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by uoaei » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:09 PM UTC

waboremo wrote: post #60

wahnfrieden wrote: post #54

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people are also prismatic in identity and adaptation. though, playing against type is also commonly performative. you're both suggesting a kind of simplistic human form

You're right, instead of using hyperbole to emphasize their point they should have just highlighted how every human being is complex and nuanced instead. Surely that would have done it.

The point as it stands is inappropriate and ultimately wrong. Or are you saying rationalization of poorly-thought-out lines of argument trumps respecting people in all their complexity?

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by clnq » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:09 PM UTC

GreenChairS33 wrote: post #148

We have long since moved from notion that the internet is an opt in tool. I fondly remember when Mac OS 9 would prompt you about the internet on first boot and you could pick "my computer does not connect to the internet". Looking at you Windows 11.

Looking at you, social fabric of society.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by uoaei » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:10 PM UTC

mway wrote: post #56

emptyfile wrote: post #41

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I'm sorry, are you making some sort of offensive joke or do you really think the world works in such stereotypes and prejudices? Rave people are "brightly colored and fidgety" ?? A polished entrepreneur is incapable of ordering in a low class bar? Jesus F Christ.

You're missing the point; the hyperbole is used to illustrate how "person of Domain A" and "person of Domain B" may not have even basic levels of overlap within a given domain.

No, that point is clear, it's just callous and disrespectful.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by rhacker » Wed, Dec 07, 2022, 6:13 PM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #144

bnralt wrote: post #106

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> People who cultivate a persona in any sub-culture or domain seem to be a fish out of water when confronted in a different context. It's possible to generalize too much: 1. The size of the different context and the extent to which someone feels like a fish out of water matters. It's one thing to say that someone might feel a bit out of place if they were suddenly dropped into an unfamiliar festival in another countr…

There are sub-cultures and there are insular sub-cultures that form someone's entire identity. These Internet people would be a fish out of water anywhere, whereas the Silicon Valley entrepreneur might just be able to blend in, socialize, and find some common ground in that Idaho roadhouse. You need to have at least some kind of personality and be capable of a little flexibility. The subjects of the article were neit…

Head higher up North. There's still some right leaning stuff, which for some reason SF newspapers like to call Far-right extremism. But when you're actually here, it's probably exactly like your rural rifle-range town.