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I don’t want to be an internet person

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by rhino369 »

tetrep wrote: post #99
jacooper wrote: post #80

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> lack of bothering to ask about pronouns Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. > use of the words "normal people" and infiltrating a group only to neg them to be more problematic than anything. Isn't it obvious that the people in this group are clearly not normal?, they even admit themselves!

How are peoples' names less made up than their pronouns? It seems just as rude to refuse to use someone's preferred name as you would their preferred pronouns.

Customized personal pronouns are just another name. They lose all value if they are high customizable.

I get why people don't want to misgendered. But making up a new pronoun comes across as aggressive attention seeking.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by mechanical_bear »

bitwize wrote: post #113
jacooper wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lack of bothering to ask about pronouns Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. > use of the words "normal people" and infiltrating a group only to neg them to be more problematic than anything. Isn't it obvious that the people in this group are clearly not normal?, they even admit themselves!

> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with their friends and family about their gender identity, and have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns and pay them basic human respect and dignity.

See also: How to get tossed from family gatherings in three easy steps.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by jacooper »

bitwize wrote: post #113
jacooper wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lack of bothering to ask about pronouns Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. > use of the words "normal people" and infiltrating a group only to neg them to be more problematic than anything. Isn't it obvious that the people in this group are clearly not normal?, they even admit themselves!

> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with their friends and family about their gender identity, and have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns and pay them basic human respect and dignity.

Yeah sure, made up or broken pronouns = human dignity.

> have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs...

I doubt thats going to help with the human dignity of your family either.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by idiotsecant »

If HN will permit a bit of old-man-shakes-fist-at-cloud I think the internet was better before we went and let so many people on it. It was small and poorly organized and weird and mostly authentic. The hyperactive and over-exaggerated always-on 'youtube personality' wasn't a thing and people talked about interesting things from time to time.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by ClassyJacket »

fleddr wrote: post #105
throwaway346434 wrote: post #48

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I found the author's pointed lack of bothering to ask about pronouns when the subject of their investigation posts under different ly gendered pseudonyms; use of the words "normal people" and infiltrating a group only to neg them to be more problematic than anything. The subject of the article might be a real shitheel. But the author doesnt do us any favours by cloaking themselves in being a Voice of the Normal while…

Outside a college campus in California, nowhere else in the world do people ask for pronouns when they meet a person. It's not a normal human interaction.

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Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by jacooper »

mechanical_bear wrote: post #132
bitwize wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with their friends and family about their gender identity, and have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns and pay them basic human respect and dignity.

See also: How to get tossed from family gatherings in three easy steps.

An example of the "My way or the highway" strategy failing miserably.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by ClassyJacket »

bitwize wrote: post #113
jacooper wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lack of bothering to ask about pronouns Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. > use of the words "normal people" and infiltrating a group only to neg them to be more problematic than anything. Isn't it obvious that the people in this group are clearly not normal?, they even admit themselves!

> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with their friends and family about their gender identity, and have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns and pay them basic human respect and dignity.

Refusing to play ridiculous pronoun games is not hurting your respect and dignity. It is not anybody else's problem or responsibility to participate in this.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by mattgreenrocks »

waboremo wrote: post #61
mattgreenrocks wrote: post #30

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That's not pedantic at all. I've consciously decided I will favor Real Life over the Internet as much as possible. I really believe the meme that Nothing Happens On The Internet; it's a projection of the Real World and as people we are very susceptible to confusing the map for the territory. From the article: > You can close the computer, but the world will go on without you. Even if culture decides that the Internet…

The bigger impact here when it comes to internet/real life schism is the fact that employers will utilize any digital footprint to make judgments about you, and subsequently fire you or refuse to hire you because of it. At the same time, having a follower count beyond a certain threshold also gives you access to a lot of real life resources. Both of these have tremendous impact on people in many ways, as an example o…

It certainly has an influence on one's life, but I refuse to make it the center point. I also refuse to be anxious about the fire/no-hire potential it can pose.

It is a useful medium for sharing things and I'm always open to contributing more good content online. But being Extremely Online? No thank you.

Re: I don’t want to be an internet person

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Post by mechanical_bear »

FeistySkink wrote: post #3
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #2

nice. here is my idea.... i was online from my pre teens time. i actually had to wait a 'few' years to get my own email address. back then, there was no "social media", no algorithm and you were taught to not give your real "A/S/L" because people could track you down and hurt you and all that. oh the days. i adopted this randomuser handle, not linking my accounts from one service with another, not reusing handles, no…

How do you avoid being doxxed based on your writing style?

Use different slang on different accounts. Don’t bother with capitalisation on some. Use British English on some. Etc. The speaking style aligns with the username.
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