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The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by moonchrome »

tlaundal wrote: post #156
moonchrome wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but that's delusional - riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.

And the same applies to every other vehicle, but I suppose you would still get in a car on a rainy day? You adjust speed and cycling style to the conditions, and for winter cycling there are plenty of good options for studded tires. The Nordics have succeeded in making winter cycling a more common activity, and you might want to check out the "winter cycling capital of the world": Oulu, Finland.

Last year a friend broke 2 ribs and forearm by slipping over some wet leaves on a bycicle - I don't see how that's comparable to a car.

Also I don't have windshield wipers on my face (or windshield for that matter) - but maybe I'm just wired like that.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by lttlrck »

lm28469 wrote: post #138
lzooz wrote: post #109

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Good luck convincing people to give up their cars and go to work soaked in a raincoat every day.

Yep, reason #1 we're fucked, people became absolute cry babies about anythign resembling physical effort or inconvenience. They'd burn the planet twice over rather than move their asses anywhere else other than in a 3 tonne climatized metal cage

Calling them cry babies is really not helpful.

Considering we spend most of our lives trying to increase the standard of living for ourselves and for others it's not all that surprising people resist reducing it, is it?

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by Tade0 »

The ultimate stage of evolution in personal urban transportation is the golf cart.

On one end you have increasingly fat cargo bikes - some have roofs or windshields.

On the other there are kei-cars, heavy quadricycles like the Twizy and now this.

Like sea creatures evolving into crabs, it's converging into the perfect form.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by TeMPOraL »

lm28469 wrote: post #135
thiht wrote: post #115

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Except when you go to work and have to spend the day with your pants and shoes drenched. And if you have glasses, you quickly can't see anything.

You can own multiple pair of shoes, and even have one stay at the office, same for pants. I do it and I don't feel like I'm having a miserable existence But fuck it, let's buy a car and fuck the planet, that's much more convenient, god forbid we sweat or touch the rain, oh the horror !

> You can own multiple pair of shoes, and even have one stay at the office, same for pants.

This hints at another counterpoint: it's not just yourself you have to protect from elements, but also whatever it is you want to transport with you. Like those extra shoes. Or electronics. Or groceries. Etc.

Waterproof bags probably exist, but I can't say I've seen them available, or used, by anyone at all.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by dghlsakjg »

moonchrome wrote: post #141
dghlsakjg wrote: post #83

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Quite honestly, an ebike solves a lot of this. I thought I would never use it in the winter, but a cheap rain suit is perfect to keep me warm and dry, and takes about 20 seconds to put on or take off. I don’t have to worry about sweat since if I get too hot I can just use the throttle or dial up the electric assist. I thought I would never use the thing in winter, but I actually find it absurdly practical.

Sorry but that's delusional - riding in the rain, and especially when it's snowy/icy - is order of magnitude more dangerous - traction/breaking/reduced visibility.

Have you tried, or are you just speculating about me being delusional?

As I said in my comment, I actually do this, and surprised myself with how practical it is in all but the absolute worse weather (there are about 7 days per year where my bike won’t work, but generally that means that it is dangerous driving conditions as well). I live in rural Canada. I’m no stranger to riding in snow, rain and darkness.

I could equally say that it is delusional to allow minimally trained civilians access to multi ton vehicles with limited visibility, built in devices intended to distract powered by explosive liquids. But that system works as well.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Xylakant wrote: post #130
thiht wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except when you go to work and have to spend the day with your pants and shoes drenched. And if you have glasses, you quickly can't see anything.

I go to work by e-bike. I have a pair of rain pants that I pull over my regular pants, and a rainproof jacket. I wear glasses, but my helmet has a visor. Would a car keep me drier? Yes, absolutely, but I’d still need to walk from parking lot to office, and I’d be stuck with all the other folks in traffic.

> but I’d still need to walk from parking lot to office

FWIW, this is effectively solved by an umbrella.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by svnpenn »

rjsw wrote: post #105
svnpenn wrote: post #86

> 28mph top speed please no one buy this. I purchased a vehicle similar to this years ago, and while fun, the top speed was ALWAYS an issue. Even on surface streets, its too slow, so you end up essentially redlining for the entire trip, and even then its too slow. Unless this is purely as second "toy vehicle" for you, don't buy this. Get something that can go at least 40.

All the roads between me and the nearest big supermarket have a speed limit of 20mph.

right, but you understand that people go other places besides the supermarket right? hence why I said "toy vehicle". If you are only using this for a single destination, then its not a general purpose vehicle, its a "toy vehicle" or "single purpose" vehicle.

Re: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

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Post by missedthecue »

tialaramex wrote: post #149
DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #133

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What is 300k? Are you using kelvin here?

300K. Yes. I don't find it very convenient to work with these weird signed temperatures.

No one knows what you mean.
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