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Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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As an American with very little appetite for catching Covid, I'll be first in line for a universal covid vaccine.

I had it, before a vaccine was available, and it was a nothing burger, like it was for most 30-somethings. If you already have natural immunity, or 1-2 doses of the vaccine, there’s no point worry about it.

Unless you give it to someone else and they die.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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> a vaccine can't make you yawn uncontrollably Please don’t rudely deny someone else’s experience. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Please do not use tone arguments to dismiss someone responding to dangerous vaccine misinformation, especially when I was not "rude." This entire thread is crawling with anti-vaccination rhetoric and misinformation.

> dangerous vaccine misinformation

Calling their written experience “dangerous vaccine misinformation” is doubling down on your error, given that their comment is merely a statement of what happened to them. Please reread the guidelines.

Denying someone’s experience is extremely rude. Clearly others agree with my reading of your comments.

Excessive yawning could be a symptom of many different things: strange symptoms should be a reason to go to the doctor, not to be dismissed.

Disclaimer: I am not a mod.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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The president of the United States literally said "You're not going to get Covid if you've had these vaccinations" - https://youtu.be/VArXfQU--LA?t=21 It's likely the vaccines reduced the spread of the virus temporarily, but it certainly wasn't very long-lasting. The efficacy waned quickly, even against the original strains/Alpha/Delta - take a look at case rates in Israel (first heavily vaccinated country) through m…

And as this is the first time any politician has engaged in hyperbole, or been made incorrect by changing information, the American public was rightfully shocked.

Except that created a narrative that the pandemic was above politics, and was only about public health and "the science". But that is clearly not the case.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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>sorry i'm rereading your post and I'm not even sure what your issue is with the current definition Really? So the definition the CDC used for years to describe vaccines had to be changed, since by their own definition the COVID vaccine wasn't actually a vaccine. And the best part is they didn't even announce & explain the change, they just stealthily modified it on their website. And you don't understand why so many…

Yes - in science, definitions change all the time. We redefined what a planet was and booted Pluto out of the group. Which part of the new definition do you disagree with as being a valid definition for a modern vaccine? And what difference does it make functionally? The covid vaccines were a product that gave you protection against a disease. Everyone knows that's what a vaccine is. I don't see why it matters what t…

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Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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Not extensive studies.

Certainly they are more extensive than your sample set of 1.

I don't think so. There's very few and all of them are inconclusive so the science isn't clear on the matter.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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I'm not sure the public - at least in North America - has much of an appetite for any more Covid vaccines. In the US: - Only about 2% of kids under 5 have had a 1st dose since they were introduced nearly a month ago - Only 30% of the 5-11 year old population has had 2 doses - So much damage has been done to public trust - "You will not get Covid if you get the vaccine; the vaccine eliminates the spread of the disease…

>- Only about 2% of kids under 5 have had a 1st dose since they were introduced nearly a month ago

>- Only 30% of the 5-11 year old population has had 2 doses

And yet I bet we all here (in the US; I hear that other countries haven't bothered, seeing no need based on the raw statistics) have seen/heard news stories in which parents are quoted as being pleased that their little ones can finally be vaccinated. Were parents who saw no need quoted? Yeah, I didn't hear any either.

Yet another example of The Narrative(TM) being pushed, regardless of the facts on the ground.

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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Why wouldn’t having Covid several times confer the same immunity as you having Covid once?

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This is all false information and needs to be flagged. Just one study from Hopkins addressing your first point.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseas....

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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It's not fair to equate skepticism of the covid vaccine to being anti vax.

"Vaccine skeptic" is just the more indirect way of saying "anti-vaxxer". There's no practical difference.

By definition, they would need to oppose vaccinations or mandates [1].

[1]: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-vaxxer

Re: We could have universal Covid vaccines soon

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post #78

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As an American with very little appetite for catching Covid, I'll be first in line for a universal covid vaccine.

I had it, before a vaccine was available, and it was a nothing burger, like it was for most 30-somethings. If you already have natural immunity, or 1-2 doses of the vaccine, there’s no point worry about it.

Two JJ vaccines. Two years I get by without getting it and living with someone who had it.

Got it this week, in my 40’s, it sucks and I haven’t been sick for 3 years.

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