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> I use duck duck go. You use a proxied Bing. If you want a proxied Google (what I prefer), you can use https://startpage.com
Is DDG proxied bing? I found DDG search results to be much better than bing.
Disclaimer: I work for Google, though far away from Search. Regardless of search engine design, there's HUGE money in SEO. Any successful search engine will be gamed. Do you have the developer power to go red-queen against all the large companies in the world?
And that money goes to support many industries beyond search itself. The author really needs to get off a computer for a minute and understand the economics of the web as it stands today and how the free ad supported model supports millions of peoples livelihoods before jumping to "This is all bullshit"
Disclaimer: I work for Google, though far away from Search. Regardless of search engine design, there's HUGE money in SEO. Any successful search engine will be gamed. Do you have the developer power to go red-queen against all the large companies in the world?
I think Google search is using the wrong approach. When I'm looking for e.g. a new camera, I want to use my network which I trust . E.g. I want to ask "what camera would HN recommend?" We should think more about how we can use trust as a basis for how we explore the internet.
The "funding options" part has the unsurprising blind spot that, maybe, a search engine is the kind of basic infrastructure that ought to be paid (at least in part) by... The taxpayers ? I have a long standing bet that, at some point, some company will be "globalized" (operated under some common funding by many different countries, like many research projects or defense organization or aid funds, etc...), and the "se…
But I do wonder if the national archives or the library of congress could be a good host for this sort of project. Not sure I agree it should be run by a government… most don’t have great histories when put in charge of gatekeeping access to information.
I use duck duck go. Recently someone showed me their screen where they were using google to do a search. I was absolutely aghast. The last time I used google when you searched for something you saw a simple text list of sites (which is how DDG still works). Instead the google results were… a disaster. You had to scroll through some much garbage before finding actual search results - a list of sites. It was like googl…
> I use duck duck go. You use a proxied Bing. If you want a proxied Google (what I prefer), you can use https://startpage.com
The internet, somewhat ironically, really needs a search engine that works in the current day. You can't find anything anymore. It's like Google has been un-invented. Hopefully some day soon the internet will be searchable again. Thanks to everyone involved in attempting to make this happen (preferably in a non-profit-maximized way). (Said before at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32034390 )
Youtube frankly offers better monetisation and most importantly easier user retention via subscriptions.
It's usually easy enough to add the site, by simply writing its name, but it could be easier.
I'm thinking right now this:
- Compile a browser without the cross origin limitations
- Make a site that uses iframes with all the answer-providing websites in it
- Simply focus the text input in the site/iframe you want and search away
- Have a way to open the results in your main browser or just use that patched browser
Like one of those internet explorer toolbars, except they cover the whole area.
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What if you limit accounts to real people and then keep track of their credibility? It's some initial effort but how could the ranking be manipulated when all dishonest people have burned their credibility?
You can’t limit to real people. If you managed to, I would make a service where people can sign up and I’ll pay to use their account. No cost to them and they make some money from it, seems totally reasonable.
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I think Google search is using the wrong approach. When I'm looking for e.g. a new camera, I want to use my network which I trust . E.g. I want to ask "what camera would HN recommend?" We should think more about how we can use trust as a basis for how we explore the internet.
Given that enough people use this heuristic, there will be companies focusing on earning karma on HN, writing comments and voting for products they are getting paid for.