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Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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No no no, the name of it needs to be an acronym as well. The Freedom-to Always Rip True Act.

I've always yearned the ability to come up with creative business names, product names, etc. It appears you have mastered it.

If only there wasn't already the Fair and Reciprocal Trade Act.

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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There's a shortage of people willing to work in terrible conditions. I'd usually add "for a pittance," but I see FAANG (is it now "MAANG"?) companies offering pretty insane salaries, but they are notorious for difficult working conditions.

Finance is another industry notorious for working their employees like slaves. Which I never understood, as these are some of the richest companies in the world, which could easily afford to hire more people instead of overworking the ones they had. Doctors and nurses are also infamously overworked, with crazy shifts and lack of sleep being the norm. This is even more unconscionable as lack of sleep can lead to mista…

Here in NY, many of my friends were once traders or brokers, in Finance. They passed their Series 7 (or whatever), and worked a few years in brokerages or banks.

Pretty much universally, they report the experience was a tornado, and they could only manage it for a few years.

But they made a lot of money. The smart ones, lived humbly, and saved up, using their earnings to do things like start small businesses.

It’s kind of surprising, to talk to a painter, or shopkeeper, and have them tell you about their “days on The Floor.”

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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I simply uninstalled ours. IT couldn't understand why. Very thankful I have an understanding manager.

IT should never be treated as more senior to Development, imho. Sure, IT guy, you can put that software on there - but I reserve the right to Ghidra it into dysfunction.

There are reasonable reasons to enforce MDM in some industries, e.g. healthcare, where not being able to prove that full disk encryption was turned on if an employee laptop is stolen can lead to fines large enough to end a company. The need to hire and retain talented developers leads us to do this in the least intrusive way possible while still complying with federal regulations, however.

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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This is what scares me about Metaverse. Initially I was like "Oh good, Facebook is blowing all of their resources on a bad idea everyone hates. I hope this goes badly for them!". Then I realized, the target audience for Metaverse won't have a choice-- it'll be a virtual office where people can work from home while under constant surveillance.

As an aside, I think I finally understand why Mark is so bent out of shape for the metaverse: His security detail. Last I heard, Mark spends ~$24M/yr. on his security detail. He's got very thick glass installed in his house. 2 foot thick, but I can't confirm that. It's not just bullet proof, it's RPG proof, or something. The optical distortions are quite real through that much silicon and plastic. I'm not privy to th…

"Hey, Hiro, you want to try some Snow Crash"?

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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I recently had a manager insist that I install some MDM-like software on my laptop so that it could be tracked and managed remotely. I said, "okay I'll do that, but then I'm never going to put that laptop on my home network, or use it on any network I may frequent outside of the office, so I'll just leave my laptop on my work desk instead". The point, of course, is the same reasoning behind IT policies that don't let…

This sort of approach only works reliably if you have a credible alternative to the negotiation.

The alternative, which was accepted, was that the administrator understand the error of their ways and not enforce such a ridiculous policy.

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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IT should never be treated as more senior to Development, imho. Sure, IT guy, you can put that software on there - but I reserve the right to Ghidra it into dysfunction.

Management has the authority to set policies on how work-provided technology is used since they can fire you for not following those policies (constrained by law). Between IT and developers, this isn't a fully-ordered relation since IT has jurisdiction to enforce those policies, and developers have jurisdiction on ensuring that software meets needed quality. If your management has ill-conceived policies that prevent…

The alternative, productive approach: stay, educate and dissuade draconian privacy-intrusive use of technology.

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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Where's the software letting me surveil my supervisors? They're supposed to be spending some time and effort on me, so I have a legitimate need to make sure that's happening. There should be software that scans their emails and chat for discussions about open positions, projects, or trainings that are a good fit for me. Then it'll let me know if they recommended me, or mentioned my name in a negative context. Of cour…

At an ex-job, shortly after I quit they got a new middle-level manager. The new boss started complaining to everyone about every time he saw them arriving to the office late, so the guys collaborated on a spreadsheet to track the boss's work hours to the minute, every single day.

And…?

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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The moment a measure becomes a KPI it is not longer a useful KPI.

yep, and people, especially many managers just DO NOT seem to understand that... they look at you like your speaking klingon....

Now KPI is stuck in my head as Klingon Productivity Indicator…

"You have challenged me for the position of Employee of the Month, and must now meet me in single combat…! Do not forget to bring your Bat'leth, I will not be merciful."

"Live Gagh will no longer be provided in the break room, as it was encouraging too many breaks. "

"The sales team has no honor, and our Product Manager acted like a spineless P'taaq in that meeting! I have deleted their logins and assumed command myself!"

" A true Klingon warrior tests their code in production."

"What is this talk of "Pull Requests"? A true Klingon warrior makes DEMANDS! "

"The beatings will continue until this team shows a TRUE warrior spirit. "

" This burndown chart is pitiful. It is barely singed!"

" When I take a mental health day, it is for YOUR mental health. Do not waste this opportunity. "

"You joined our team over a year ago and have still not challenged me for my position. We need to discuss your career goals."

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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Nah, in retail, we used to have this software known as "secret shoppers." If they didn't see someone smiling, the store or department would be docked points on its evaluation, and you'd be hearing about it from your boss and boss's boss. Now all of us WFH minions below the lowly programmers will be subject to a smiling rictus as our cameras, microphones, and keyloggers determine productivity scores, work morale, and…

How long before somebody uses AI to permasmile your face in virtual conferences? The market is ripe for an arms race here.

you can do that with the snap filters. I use the mac app to overlay all sorts of goofy hats, sunglasses, laser eyes, etc.... onto my face to spice up dull zoom/teams calls.

Re: Welcome to the era of the hyper-surveilled office

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I worked at a place once where we got a memo that asked everyone to stop clipping nails and farting because the microphones installed in our desks were picking these noises up. The memo even added that if you need to fart please go to the bathroom. It wasn't a joke email, they were serious. Oh, also not many people realize this but CCTV cameras all have the capability to convey audio captured via an internal micropho…

I would record one and put it on a 15 minute loop on my phone, then set the phone close to the mic. In between I'd have it play some pink noise.
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