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Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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Eh, that's not why Captain Underpants is banned, though. Captain Underpants is banned because of these reasons. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-captain-underpants-is-th...

Nope. It was removed from libraries and book stores because some people were offended by the images in the books. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56577725

Again that article is about The Adventures of Ook and Gluk: Kung-Fu Cavemen from the Future not Captain Underpants.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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Nope. It was removed from libraries and book stores because some people were offended by the images in the books. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56577725

Again that article is about The Adventures of Ook and Gluk: Kung-Fu Cavemen from the Future not Captain Underpants .

Ook and Gluk is a Captain Underpants book. Captain Underpants is a series and this is part of it and has the main characters from Captain Underpants. The series (not an individual title) is #2 on the list because there are challenges to the books because of words and images that offend some people. Sometimes those people are liberals - and no I'm not saying it's 50/50. However, when Dav Pilkey gets his book challenged for offending people he has to issue public apologies and donate all revenue to a charity. Not so for any other title on that list.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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Still waiting to hear Jordan Peterson’s review of that one.

We all are. That little performance bummed me out quite a bit the first time I saw it. I still think his general life advice is good though.

If you’ve read Nietzsche or other philology/mythology he just comes off as a gas station ‘10 tips to EXCEL in your life’ and it’s cringe to see people take him seriously at face value.

Not doubting he is a smart man: he started a self auditing thing on his website, and probably has the psychological profile of his audience written up in bullet points for his marketers.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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My point was more "of the books that would be banned, these are not the right type of books." I don't speak Russian, but I would doubt they have anti-Putin books in Russian or in English. That seems bad for the curators health.

Libgen absolutely does have anti-Putin books in English. But I don't know about Russian. For instance, I found: Blowing Up Russia: The Secret Plot to Bring Back KGB Terror by Alexander Litvinenko (the guy Putin murdered with Polonium) Winter Is Coming: Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World Must Be Stopped by Garry Kasparov Freezing Order : A True Story of Money Laundering, Murder, and Surviving Vladimi…

Those are strong arguments that Libgen doesn't censor their curation.

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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Libraries don't necessarily pay rights holders or authors. They buy books like anybody else, which means they sometimes buy books on the second hand market. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Unlike physical books, the First sale doctrine doesn't apply to e-book licenses. Typically, the license expires after a couple of reads, and the rights holders has a say on how many times a copy may be lent out, and how many copies can be borrowed simultaneously using DRM - which means they can set the average price paid each time an e-book is borrowed. I listened to a fascinating podcast on the history of Overdrive…

You're absolutely right, which is why the IA buys physical books, scans them, and makes them available online under so-called "Controlled Digital Lending". Renting out one digital copy at a time is covered by fair use, they argue, although it hasn't been tested in court.*

* That is expected as a part of the publishers lawsuit against the "National Emergency Library"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_digital_lending

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive#National_Emer...

Re: Brooklyn Public Library offers access to banned ebooks to teens across the U.S

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Unlike physical books, the First sale doctrine doesn't apply to e-book licenses. Typically, the license expires after a couple of reads, and the rights holders has a say on how many times a copy may be lent out, and how many copies can be borrowed simultaneously using DRM - which means they can set the average price paid each time an e-book is borrowed. I listened to a fascinating podcast on the history of Overdrive…

You're absolutely right, which is why the IA buys physical books, scans them, and makes them available online under so-called "Controlled Digital Lending". Renting out one digital copy at a time is covered by fair use, they argue, although it hasn't been tested in court.* * That is expected as a part of the publishers lawsuit against the "National Emergency Library" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_digital_le…

Thank you for the links - that is the disagreement with authors & publishers I was alluding to in my root comment at the start of the thread.

Lending multiple electronic copies of 1 physical book simultaneously was questionable behavior by the IA - emergency or not. I suspect a court would treat that a electronic reproduction of the work, and not fair use, IANAL. If you want to lend out 20 copies, buy 20 copies first (or procure 20 donations)

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