As a meat fan, and also an Earth fan, this is something I've always wanted to see happen. I've mostly fallen on the Earth side of the fence, which means I've been vegetarian-ish for years. I would love to be able to eat what I want without the climate guilt. Glad to see this tech is getting closer towards market, and I hope your business is successful.
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It’s even simpler than that. There are some people who simply don’t function as well when they don’t eat meat. “But I’m vegan and I do just fine, in fact it I feel better then when I was eating meat”. I don’t doubt you, but I also don’t doubt the ex-vegans who tried and tried, but just felt awful and tired until they reintroduced meat. Different people have different metabolisms, and some people just can’t properly d…
>Meat has a much higher concentration of protein and iron than vegan food. Exactly this. The whole point is the Protein:Fat+Carb ratio and vegan options just don't come close. My diet has me eating ~150 grams of protein a day. If I were vegan, I'd be consuming an insane amount of carbs and/or fat along with that protein. My high protein diet combined with weight lifting is the only thing that keeps the dad bod at bay…
I’ve been planning meals using linear programming with the Simplex algorithm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplex_algorithm) to calculate the optimal ingredients/quantities to hit my macro goals while minimising total calories.
From playing about it’s impossible for me to hit my macro goals using a pure vegan/vegetarian whole food diet. To hit my protein goals my carb ratio would need to go way up and I’d then need to lower the fat percentage and even then I’d likely be in a caloric surplus. I could lower the protein proportion to try and hit the total calorie goal but then I’d likely be in a catabolic state and loose muscle mass.
I really wanted to eat less meat just for the fact meat costs more and as a plus eating less lowers my environmental impact. When plugging in the numbers with simplex it becomes very apparent it’s extremely hard to get the nutritional bang for your buck you get from meat. For the average person not interested in strength training or body fat percentage it’s probably not as big a deal but the fact remains it’s extremely hard to get specific macro targets without meat.
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>Meat has a much higher concentration of protein and iron than vegan food. Exactly this. The whole point is the Protein:Fat+Carb ratio and vegan options just don't come close. My diet has me eating ~150 grams of protein a day. If I were vegan, I'd be consuming an insane amount of carbs and/or fat along with that protein. My high protein diet combined with weight lifting is the only thing that keeps the dad bod at bay…
My diet is roughly 40% protein, 35% fat, 25% carbs. It’s extremely high in protein as I’m on a 20% calorie deficit, aiming for at least 1.2g protein per lb lean body weight, 35% fat preferring it to carbs and making up the remaining calories with carbs. I prefer fat over carbs as my body hangs on to carbs and doing a metabolic test was told I would be better with higher fat to carb ratio based on my stats and goal of…
I fear that often the vegan community insists that these lifestyle changes are universally easy. It probably doesn't help that many of the vegan activists make a part of their living by being vegan activists, which gives them flexibility to micromanage their diet. But for the gentleman at the lumber yard, it isn't so easy.
I'm excited to see cultured meat make some headway and hope the ventures in this space are successful. I've been watching for some time.
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1) We have already created our first piece of edible pork using our method! 2) ATKearney in their article "How will cultured meat and meat alternatives disrupt the agricultural and food industry?" estimates that about 10% of global meat consumption could be switched over to cultivated meat around 2030. While 10% is low, I think you'll start seeing restaurant experiences start cropping up more and more over the next 3…
> 5) We have not tasted it yet, but we will very soon! You need double blind taste tests. It doesn't matter if cultured meat is good for the planet, if Joe Sixpack won't eat cultured meat because it tastes bad or has weird non-meat properties and textures, then your product will get no traction
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> 5) We have not tasted it yet, but we will very soon! You need double blind taste tests. It doesn't matter if cultured meat is good for the planet, if Joe Sixpack won't eat cultured meat because it tastes bad or has weird non-meat properties and textures, then your product will get no traction
Joe Sixpack. Gonna use this one
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#176This is very interesting from a society/technology perspective. I support your efforts! I do have one or two fundamental questions about this industry/space, not necessarily related to this company, but this might be a good place to ask. I am a vegan of about 10 years now, and as (potentially) a constituent of the addressable market, here's why I'm not going to buy lab-grown "meat": my primary motivations for dietary…
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#178Why is this better than self sustaining and carbon neutral homesteads?
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#179Hmm. The name. It has a connotation lol.
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#180> After researching the impact the livestock industry has on our planet, I knew I wanted to get involved to stop it. I applaud the desire to help humanity eat healthier and saner amounts of meat, but... I remain unconvinced that creating relatively resource-intensive fake meats is better than using highly efficient non-animal meat[0]. Most people won't eat either one unless they have no choice, but if it comes to tha…
> Isn't the real solution to eat less meat, as opposed to eating more fake meat? Sure. What's your plan to get there from here?
Price in the externalities.