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Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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> They like to think they are free and above the hypocrisy of the west. This statement shows you have no idea what Russians like to think. Better stop embarrassing yourself further with such opinions. Source: I'm actually Russian.

You seem to believe strongly that the fact that you are Russian makes your opinion of what Russians think (or not think) absolutely true.

Well, he is at least speaking for himself, likely has a good idea of what friends and family think so you can take it as a datapoint.

And I would put more stock in that than in someone who isn't Russian.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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> Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? We want Russia to stop their criminal war on Ukraine. Either by government action, open revolt or a population starving in the streets. The only other option is nuclear holocaust.

I don't want to see anyone starving on the streets but massive civil disobedience or a nation-wide strike by the Russian people would be incredible to see.

Sure, give Putin his own 2 March (O.S.) / 15 March (N.S.) 1917.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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How much have they changed their minds in the last few days?

How much have they changed their minds in the last few days? Enough that there are protests in most major Russian cities against the invasion of Ukraine. Just yesterday, Moscow police arrested over 1,000 protesters. They can only keep up that pace for so long.

Not until there are more protestors than the police can conceivably arrest will it make a real difference, but there is some chance of that happening.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Theoretically, the main point here is that Facebook has an independent fact checker program, and some of those fact checkers rated Russian media posts (which would lead to a big scary overlay and a reduction in views) I'd guess they would have used some other excuse to block Facebook sooner than later anyways though.

"independent", are you really able to say it with straight face? I'm not even talking of russian posts, it is as partisan as can be, supporting Dem agenda and suppressing GOP.

Not a FB user, so I'm genuinely curious what the GOP agenda is being surpressed?

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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And I forgot to ask a question. Why do you think that we all should feel pain of sanctions? Because we are not able to stand against gov? Well, we are not able. And I think noone would be able if there is such a law and permissions of authorities. And for sure we, who know English(ok, not as good like any EU-person knows) and not working in gov-structures are the most small part of russians who have different opinion

> Because we are not able to stand against gov? But you can. > Well, we are not able No, you won't. That's fine but don't make it seem like there is no choice, there is plenty of evidence of people in Russia protesting and they have made a different choice than you. And "current operation" is distancing language. It's an invasion or a war, not an operation.

There are very severe consequences for protesting. I don't blame him if he puts his and his family's lives first.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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> Because we are not able to stand against gov? But you can. > Well, we are not able No, you won't. That's fine but don't make it seem like there is no choice, there is plenty of evidence of people in Russia protesting and they have made a different choice than you. And "current operation" is distancing language. It's an invasion or a war, not an operation.

Just vote harder guys, and make pithy signs. Protests don't even work in the west, how can they work in Russia?

Protests work: if they are large enough.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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I find it interesting that you have an issue with the other side having guns.

I have an issue when the other side have guns _and_ use it against their own people for 8 years. Yeah, I have strong issue with that.

I fully supported surgical separation of Donbass along the ceasefire lines. That would have stopped people suffering there, and would have been a forever reminder to Ukraine what happens when you let your nationalist radicals run unleashed and turn blind eye to their actions. What has been happening these 2 last days - indiscriminate killing of people all across the Ukraine - has nothing to do with it, and is a shame on my old country. I hope and believe Ukrainians will get victorious in the end while that catastrophe of a war for Russia will, similar like the defeat in Afghanistan, result in total crash of Putin's regime, and may be, just may be, i don't hold my breath here, some awakening of Russian society as a result of a burning shame and repentance.

Current Russian society has proven incapable of self-management as well as incapable of responsible management of such a large territory and military force including nukes. I suppose that as a result Russia, similar to Germany after WWI and WWII, may be broken up with limits on military force, giving up nukes, and other restrictions. Very probably losing that key place in UN Security Council. In short - Putin with clear permission from the whole society, save for a few brave souls, blew up any last chances for Russia to be a great country. (note: Putin is counting on China's support here agreed upon in exchange for Russian support in the future Taiwan takeover, yet that senile moron completely misses that once things go wrong in the Ukraine invasion - and they will - China will be the first to use the chance to get rid of that aggressive nuclear powered neighbor and to replace it with a docile client state comprised of the Far East part of that former neighbor)

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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>The propaganda inside Russia is very strong. Russians need sanctions, they need to start suffering (economically or otherwise). And then maybe they'll wake up. What makes you sure that it won't cement their position even more? Western countries hurting russia's economy via sanctions basically confirms the "evil westerners" narrative.

> they need to start suffering You just stated that the people of the whole country need to start suffering. There already was period in our history when one politicial stated that we must all be destroyed as an ethnic group and our lands repopulated, and that was not good at all.

Ukrainians are already suffering. And Americans too will suffer from the sanctions that Americans impose. But I am willing to suffer economically to protect a free republic that truly represents its people, because they are people, just like me.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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I find it interesting that you have an issue with the other side having guns.

I have an issue when the other side have guns _and_ use it against their own people for 8 years. Yeah, I have strong issue with that.

You are misinformed and are repeating quite a bit of Russian propaganda. There is another Russian active here upthread, maybe have a chat with him?
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