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Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by beachy »

darkwater wrote: post #9
clouddrover wrote: post #5

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The vehicle to load capability is nice too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AlfsRk21TU It's a feature of Hyundai's E-GMP platform cars (Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Genesis GV60).

I put my eyes on the Ioniq 5 but I think its aerodynamics are worse than the EV6 (but I have no numbers and I'm not an expert). Anyway this record is about charging time, not energy usage. E-GMP supports fast load with 350kW chargers, and I'm pretty sure that, being a benchmark, they used all the tricks up in their sleeves.

We got our ioniq 5 last week. My impression was that ioniq 5 is the family wagon and ev6 is if you're more footloose and want a sportier image.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by tmh88j »

lrem wrote: post #167
xdavidliu wrote: post #152

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this is only partially true; on my model Y you can manually wipe once by pressing a physical button on the left stick of steering wheel, though you’re still right about needing to use screen when switching between wiper speed settings

Is this real? It lacks the usual 3-step on the stick?

Yes, you have to use the screen to change the wiper speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6lpSrIBar4

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by Epa095 »

jedberg wrote: post #105
Epa095 wrote: post #78

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What about the Nissan e-nv200? It can come in different configurations, including a 7 seat one. A friend has it to log his family around. It does not have the greatest range, but decent enough.

Looks like it's only available in the UK and mostly commercial. But at least it means it's possible!

They are certainly available outside the UK, there are plenty of them here in Norway. But I googled it now and surprisingly they don't seem too be available in the US at all.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by lrem »

kjksf wrote: post #30

I just finished 2k+ california => florida road trip in an electric car and can say with confidence that this comparison is total and utter garbage. Here are the factors that influence your total charge time. 1. Charger speeds vary from 50 kWh to 250 kWh. That's 5x difference just based on what charger you'll happen to use. 2. The energy usage (due to air resistance) is non-linear with speed. Driving at 85 mph could u…

> BTW: this is why EPA range is not representative. Their test is at 65 mph while my un-scientific observation of highway driving tells me people drive at least 75 mph.

Wait, is this really the speed of long-distance driving in the US? I've just did the conversion and when I'm taking kids to see their grandma, we set the cruise control to 110mph for the most part.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by fishywang »

tmh88j wrote: post #172
lrem wrote: post #167

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Is this real? It lacks the usual 3-step on the stick?

Yes, you have to use the screen to change the wiper speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6lpSrIBar4

and the video is titled "how to ... safely". oh my.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by epistasis »

tmh88j wrote: post #148
RangerScience wrote: post #143

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Tesla owner. While driving, I rarely use the touchscreen, as the knobs + sticks that are available cover everything I need. Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Like - what do you even need, while driving? Music controls ("next", volume) and wipers, and blinkers? Done, and easily, and (nearly) clearly. The minimalism is (IMHO) beautiful and ve…

> Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Having to open a menu for wipers is the opposite of that.

I disagree, modern wipers on auto sense just work. At least, they work far better than lane assisted cruise control.

My major annoyance is the glove box. I probably only opened the glove box 3-4 times a year, but the inconvenience of navigating the touch screen for that far outweighs my cumulative annoyance about wipers, which is pretty nonexistent.

I'm far more annoyed at massive view of the car and it's bad estimations of nearby cars. I'd much rather have that prime real estate be occupied by geographical map than a useless and inaccurate map of nearby cars.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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epistasis wrote: post #176
tmh88j wrote: post #148

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> Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Having to open a menu for wipers is the opposite of that.

I disagree, modern wipers on auto sense just work. At least, they work far better than lane assisted cruise control. My major annoyance is the glove box. I probably only opened the glove box 3-4 times a year, but the inconvenience of navigating the touch screen for that far outweighs my cumulative annoyance about wipers, which is pretty nonexistent. I'm far more annoyed at massive view of the car and it's bad estimat…

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Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by lrem »

tmh88j wrote: post #172
lrem wrote: post #167

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Is this real? It lacks the usual 3-step on the stick?

Yes, you have to use the screen to change the wiper speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6lpSrIBar4

This made me tremendously sad. I've been waiting for the Y 7 seater to reach Europe. Now I feel betrayed by none of the reviews I've ever glanced making this clear. And I'm at a loss on what car to hope for instead.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by tmh88j »

lrem wrote: post #178
tmh88j wrote: post #172

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Yes, you have to use the screen to change the wiper speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6lpSrIBar4

This made me tremendously sad. I've been waiting for the Y 7 seater to reach Europe. Now I feel betrayed by none of the reviews I've ever glanced making this clear. And I'm at a loss on what car to hope for instead.

>And I'm at a loss on what car to hope for instead.

If you can afford Porsche the Taycan is leagues beyond anything that Tesla offers from a quality and driving dynamics standpoint. The Taycan uses the 992 911's (latest generation) steering rack and it really shows. It provides lots of feedback and feels very precise and responsive. It feels like Porsche, it's not numb and toned down just because it's an EV. They're also working on an electric Cayenne.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by judge2020 »

tmh88j wrote: post #130
dotancohen wrote: post #108

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It's also worth noting without Tesla there would be almost no electric car market. The occasional Leaf is about as common as a Ferrari. It's also worth noting that Tesla is the first American car manufacturer to bring a vehicle to mass production in almost a century. The only other American company to come close would be DeLorean, who failed after two or three model years and less than 10,000 chassis I think. The pre…

>It's also worth noting without Tesla there would be almost no electric car market. The occasional Leaf is about as common as a Ferrari. Nissan has manufactured over 500,000 Leafs[1] since 2010, Ferrari has produced about 220,0000 in their entire existence [2] >Honestly, under-warranty misaligned panels and air conditioning complaints are not signs that the company is bad That's a sign their manufacturing process and…

500k in just over 10 years, meanwhile we're expected to see 40-50% of new cars sales be EV by 2030[0], which will be at least 8 million a year[1]. No doubt Tesla is the force that got the industry moving towards that growth.

0: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/biden-...

1: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/us-auto-sales-down-in-2019-b...

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