Ok, now I'm surprised... "extreme ironing". O-M-G
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#172Had to have been started by an Englishman. English eccentricity is still alive and well!
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#173Mildly related: I'm curious what are the latest advances in consumer irons and ironing boards. Something that improved them in the last 10-15 years, even incrementally. For example SSDs became much more common and affordable over the past 15 years and their parameters also improved. Are there similar improvements in household appliances like irons? Where would one look for an industry overview?
There's a market niche for "steam generator" irons specifically for use when sewing (where you need the iron sporadically while assembling a garment from pieces). This is sort of a "pro-sumer" space. These typically have an offboard water tank and boiler that doubles as a stand for the hot iron. This also lets the iron itself be lighter in weight. A key feature for this market is the absence of the automatic shutoff…
same answer from my perspective, i did not iron a lot during the last year because of lockdows but i see nice machines using steam. The sound is the same as a nespresso machine so i believe that it is based on the same steam generation technology, opposed to the brass tank steam generation process used in quality espresso machines & professional irons.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found this: "We took our own iron. It's not battery powered so it doesn't iron that well, but the quality of the ironing is not the point - it's where you do it." [1] So it sounds like they just run a not-plugged-in regular iron over some fabric and call it ironing? [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/apr/25/everest.nepal
I mean if this is true it really just calls the validity of the whole sport into question. You obviously can’t iron without heat.
> In March 2008, a team of 72 divers simultaneously ironing underwater set a new world's record for number of people ironing underwater at once
Apparently the clothes don't need to be dry either!
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Slightly related question: Does anyone know what to do when finding a Wikipedia page that's just an ad in disguise? I've found a few and Wikipedia has a lot of pages about vandalism/verifiability which often recommends just changing the parts that don't fit or placing a warning on the user's page but what if the whole page is about a made up term that exists to link to the authors blog/company? I can't outright delet…
Don't delete it. Deleting an article has the lowest effort:effect ratio, so lots of automatic policies are in place to speedily allow an author to restore a page that's been deleted. If the article itself shouldn't exist, mark it with {{qd|spam}} . `qd` is quick deletion. If the article should still exist but has substantial content that's advertising, mark it {{npov}} In both cases someone else will come along and f…
For doing these sort of things quickly, try getting the Twinkle gadget (enwp.org/WP:TWINK) — you get a giant searchable list for tags to add. Heck, you can put a BUNCH on at a time!
Also, {{advert}} is a thing.
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#176It's clear that people are just doing this...ironically.
I can't think of a witty response. I fold.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Some children (and some adults) would refuse to play a video game that someone else told them to play. Well, yes, but coercion, extrinsic motivation, and general spite are all edge-cases, and outside the scope of what the core fact about "learning" that I'm trying to talk about here. Let's look at a specific non-edge-case case: learning under self-directed intrinsically-motivated reward + time pressure — for exampl…
> give up much more quickly when a solution does not come easily to them Anecdotally, kids often also give up easily when faced with trivial setbacks. I think your speculative generalization is far too broad. I’d be interested to see some concrete research, but my impression is that there is very wide variability, and I’m not sure how meaningful the statistical averages are. The people I know who are best at diving i…
> What you call pride/hubris, I call shame and fear of embarrassment.
It sounds like you're assuming these conversations/learning events occur in public. Why would people feel shame/embarrassment about something nobody can see them doing?
This was the point of my example: if someone is alone in the wilderness, what does it matter to anyone but them—to anything but their survival—if they were to try and fail at building a shelter or a trap?
> It’s hardly surprising that someone who is supposed to be an expert
Who said anything about being an expert?
The example that comes first to my mind is a grandchild trying to teach their grantparent to post photos to Facebook on their iPad. The grandmother explicitly—even "infamously"—has no experience with computers or anything to do with them. If their friends/family/etc. were to observe the situation, they'd have a preconception that the child would know more about "posting photos to Facebook" than the adult would.
And yet, despite nominally having no real way to be "shown up"–no presumed domain expertise to lose; and despite nominally wanting the grandchild to teach them how to post photos to Facebook; and despite the grandparent being intrinsically motivated to learn how to post photos to Facebook (because they enjoy the social interaction that comes when friends see their photos); the grandparent still won't bother to focus at all on paying attention to / understanding / remembering what the grandchild is saying.
I would describe this as a kind of learned helplessness, except it's more like contextual helplessness. It's not that they can't learn how to do this–they seem to be able to learn it from a peer their own age just fine. But when it comes to those they think of as people they are supposed to be teaching, their mind just turns into a brick wall.
I would compare it to the prevalence of people who get their romantic partner to open jars for them, instead of buying one of those gripper gadgets that allow them to open the jar. If their partner offers to buy them one of those, they'll often actively refuse the gadget! They think of this job as something someone is supposed to do for them — something they shouldn't have to do – rather than something they want to get done by whatever means, as efficiently as possible. Despite it not being a hard/complex job, or a matter of comparative advantage.