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WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by s5300 »

iammisc wrote: post #162
s5300 wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In fact, he was pretty clear he thought I suspect you're being downvoted because of your insistence on Donald Trump being "pretty clear", among other things, when Donald Trump has a decades long history of being anything but "very clear" While this is after when your comment refers to, here is an example. > "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do…

No one is going to argue that Trump is a great orator or that he doesn't gaffe or that every single thing that comes out of his mouth ought to be taken at face value (Are you kidding me... do you believe this is true of any politician? Look at what happened with Cuomo after months of media adulation and an emmy....) In the case of the lab leak theory, Trump was always extremely clear that he thought it a possibility…

> I can see that you are uninterested in engaging in good faith, because instead of keeping the debate to what it was about (the lab leak theory) you're changing the goalposts (demanding that everything he say be absolutely clear and never wrong or stupid, apparently in contrast to every other president before him [1]).

No, a third grader can easily explain to you why when somebody has a long and detailed history of being completely and utterly full of shit, whatever they say going forward will barely be considered to be not full of shit, for whatever roundabout reasons and circumstances.

>are only interested in ignoring reality.

You're trolling on HN. Stop trolling on HN.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by dkersten »

lasc4r wrote: post #164
timbo1642 wrote: post #140

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We dont need to compare anything. We already know. Even the Biden administration who kisses China's ass agrees. Its well known and all the virus experts that aren't brainwashed leftists agree. Many of them did from day 1. They had other leaks and there are news articles about it with the original SARS. Stop trying to play pretend and believe the truth.

From day one it's been silly to assume any outbreak of a virus is from a lab leak without evidence.

There's no evidence for the counter argument either, but to believe that we have to accept the big coincidence that it happened to start in the one city where they were studying that exact virus.

I'm not saying that this means it was definitely a lab leak. It absolutely doesn't, without further evidence, but discounting it completely, especially given how suspicious the CCP acted around it (why wait an entire year before letting the WHO investigate and then only for a few hours? why silence scientists and doctors?), is equally silly.

There's no evidence it was a lab leak, there's no evidence that it wasn't either. There's some circumstantial data to suggest that the CCP isn't a trustworthy source. That's all we know.

Yes its silly to assume that it was a lab leak. But its also silly to assume that it wasn't. We don't know what it was.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by iammisc »

s5300 wrote: post #171
iammisc wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is going to argue that Trump is a great orator or that he doesn't gaffe or that every single thing that comes out of his mouth ought to be taken at face value (Are you kidding me... do you believe this is true of any politician? Look at what happened with Cuomo after months of media adulation and an emmy....) In the case of the lab leak theory, Trump was always extremely clear that he thought it a possibility…

> I can see that you are uninterested in engaging in good faith, because instead of keeping the debate to what it was about (the lab leak theory) you're changing the goalposts (demanding that everything he say be absolutely clear and never wrong or stupid, apparently in contrast to every other president before him [1]). No, a third grader can easily explain to you why when somebody has a long and detailed history of…

I have no interest in provoking a reaction from you (trolling), I'm just pointing out that all administrations say stupid things, and that's not a good reason to dismiss the correct things they say or to deny it without consideration. I honestly don't understand why this is controversial. Instead of an explanation as to why any administration's claims ought to be dismissed out of hand, I am being accused of breaking site rules.

It seems to me, that by downvoting and then accusing me of breaking site rules, you're trying to make me react. Isn't that also trolling? At no point did I ask for your comments or try to 'bait' you into making them. Have a great day!

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by 99_00 »

TooKool4This wrote: post #77
908B64B197 wrote: post #12

Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember how you would get banned from Facebook for suggesting that the lab leak theory was a possibility? Then major social networks and the medias reversed their positions. What changed in the meantime, other than the president?

> Remember when the previous administration suggested looking into the Lab Leak theory and was laughed at? Remember when the head of the previous administration thought injecting disinfectants or UV light was a possible solution to Covid? The problem with trust and credibility is that once it’s lost, it’s very hard to gain back. Even if the broken clock is right twice a day, it’s still broken.

You can't blame corporate media and the scientific establishment, and big tech's active suppression of this topic on Trump. That's on them.

Do you think corporate media is giving the recent information the weight it deserves, given the fact that 4.3 million people died so far, and untold damage was done to the global economy and mental health?

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by rcurry »

shadilay wrote: post #175
rcurry wrote: post #148

This stuff is always so much easier in the Navy. Just find a gay sailor who has a copy of The Anarchist’s Cookbook. Re: USS Iowa Turret Explosion

But how can you pick just one gay seaman?

I knew a Marine would show up.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by bmn__ »

j_walter wrote: post #129
calibas wrote: post #126

So the best guess is that it came from wild bats, and there was a lab right next to the initial outbreak site that was studying wild bats. That could just be a coincidence, but it's a pretty remarkable coincidence and at the very least deserves further investigation. It could have been just an innocent mistake. A researcher got the disease while collecting bats out in the wild, but the lab never got a sample of the d…

I think the fact that there are only two labs in China that study Coronaviruses...and the outbreak location is a few hundred yards from where one of the labs is...is enough of a coincidence that it should be THE theory that it somehow (leak of some sort) until proven otherwise.

I think you are confusing WIV and WCDC. Check whether in that light the theory still makes sense.

Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by [deleted] »

aesh2Xa1 wrote: post #160
rcurry wrote: post #144

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Well, we do block them on Facebook and Twitter.

What are you talking about (serious)? Dissent is legal and will not result in imprisonment in the US. I don't even subscribe to Facebook or Twitter by choice. I definitely wouldn't subscribe to imprisonment by choice, haha. If you're concerned about these platforms controlling their content privately, don't use them.

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Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by [deleted] »

aesh2Xa1 wrote: post #160
rcurry wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, we do block them on Facebook and Twitter.

What are you talking about (serious)? Dissent is legal and will not result in imprisonment in the US. I don't even subscribe to Facebook or Twitter by choice. I definitely wouldn't subscribe to imprisonment by choice, haha. If you're concerned about these platforms controlling their content privately, don't use them.

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Re: WHO inquiry chief 'had concerns' about lab close to first Covid cases

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Post by rcurry »

quantum_magpie wrote: post #169
aesh2Xa1 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you talking about (serious)? Dissent is legal and will not result in imprisonment in the US. I don't even subscribe to Facebook or Twitter by choice. I definitely wouldn't subscribe to imprisonment by choice, haha. If you're concerned about these platforms controlling their content privately, don't use them.

Well, the US seems hellbent on shipping one journalist who broke no law in US to their torture chambers. Until that's sorted out you just can't claim moral superiority.

Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown.
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