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Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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I think your product generally sucks, and should instead be a service for pairing players with coaches that see nothing but what the player sees while they play, maybe for an hourly rate.

While I agree that their current product is pretty subpar and scummy, the vision is to replace exactly what you're describing (which already exists in some forms): an ML model for game analysis scales better and is cheaper than humans

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Very interesting. A personal coach is certainly the most efficient way to improve. My main concern is about the legality of such a software. Even if the data is presented on screen and available, changing the UI to help the player is not accepted in all games as it can provide a strong edge. For AoE2, part of the game is about scouting and remembering key information while managing your economy.

Thanks for the comment. We don't change the UI but provide some verbal notifications. An analogy, would be making a beeping sound when there is an idle villager.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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listening to a song that has INJECT at the right moment put in for your perfect injects isnt cheating as long as you dont play it during tournaments, its just a metronome to practice to. Its not a service I would ever want to use because I actually enjoy games and I find coaching it to be too much to care about, but I think "audio clues to practice" doesn't meet the bar of cheating lol.

Your description doesn't sound like it's feedback based on game-state, though.

I see your point, but to me its starting to splice hairs because at the time the meta wasn't something that changed much, there was effectively a pre-determined set of actions in the first 10 or so minutes and most matches were less than 16 minutes so perfecting your opening via almost a programmatic efficiency was pretty normal.

The proper inject time (for instance) is just X*N seconds since game start, the second best time is right after that.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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When a good significant portion of your website is dedicated to “will I get banned?” .. I don’t know, man, it’s probably not going to go over well with these game companies. Also, is AWS, NVIDIA, etc really a “partner?” Just because I use their products, or get credits, that doesn’t mean they endorse or have partnered with me? This just feels like cheating to me in Valorant: https://vimeo.com/534438994

> When a good significant portion of your website is dedicated to “will I get banned?”

It means that you will, and their app will get blacklisted, and they know it. They're trying to extract cash from users before it all gets banned/closed.

These types of apps get created for every new competitive game, and after a while they get shut down and the companies usually just quietly shut down without refunding anything.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Does the timer thing actually make the player better at estimating time remaining? I have never played this game, but I would assume the opposite: players would get a small advantage while using it, but it would prevent their timing skills from being developed. This is like saying "Using GPS driving directions make you a better navigator" - it's true while you're using it, but if you always use it your navigation ski…

Thanks for your feedback, appreciated! We are not developing GPS in your analogy, in our opinion, the game already provides GPS via auditory information. We just help you to learn and use this information.

No. The game provides the map in that analogy and you provide the GPS.

The question was: Are you not actively preventing learning? Seems from your answers you are aware of that but pretend to not notice?

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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I agree this feels like cheating. I read the Valorant page and they've basically re-implemented information that is available to you in game generally, but takes skill/timing/awareness to track and made it more obvious and automatically tracked. How is this not just a low-grade cheating program? If the game developers wanted you to have that information in the format Senpai.gg is giving it to you in, they would provi…

Thanks for sharing your feedback, I agree that it takes time to learn and implement the specific actions in the game - and that is the reason why we developed the gaming coach. Ideally, we want you to learn the game dynamics so you can play better, improve faster and enjoy the game more!

Transparent, shameless attempts to deflect criticism make people like you less than if you just ignore it, phony exclamation point.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Your description doesn't sound like it's feedback based on game-state, though.

I see your point, but to me its starting to splice hairs because at the time the meta wasn't something that changed much, there was effectively a pre-determined set of actions in the first 10 or so minutes and most matches were less than 16 minutes so perfecting your opening via almost a programmatic efficiency was pretty normal. The proper inject time (for instance) is just X*N seconds since game start, the second b…

Ugh. Why don't the devs randomize things a bit so the game can be more interesting and fun than memorizing digits of pi?

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Thanks for sharing your feedback. We understand your concern but we are very careful to not develop any feature that would be considered as cheating for the majority of the gaming and game developer.

In my experience, may of these companies (Riot, et. al) are not particularly consistent over time or in the application of even current rules. And it's also hard to divine what "would be considered cheating" by these companies as one support person may say something is cheating, and another might consider it cheating and ban your account. It seems very fraught and risky to use for gamers who desire that their account…

That's good if it helps get cheaters banned.

Re: Launch HN: Senpai.gg (YC S21) – Personal gaming coach for PC gamers

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Providing situational feedback during gameplay by way of an overlay or audio queues is clearly cheating. If I were an investor in this company, I'd be asking the founders what their plan is when they get banned by the major anti-cheat engines.

Cheating in video games is a growing industry. But if they push boundaries and are a US or EU company they will be sued to splinters for it.

What tort is "helping someone cheat at a video game"?
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