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Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by lambdaba »

heavyset_go wrote: post #130
lambdaba wrote: post #56

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I hope this is taken the right way, but have you tried "vitamins" (broadly speaking)? Some I have seen with specific effects: Niacin, Black Seed Oil (Nigella Sativa), Magnesium megadoses, etc. etc. Don't dismiss these as "quack medicines", I've recovered from severe chronic illness thanks to some of these... I could expand if people ask, but really it's quite easy, especially for the HN crowd, to level-up rapidly on…

> Magnesium megadoses If you're considering this (I wouldn't), be aware that milk of magnesia is a very effective laxative, and other magnesium salts like magnesium oxide etc work similarly.

Yes indeed, I was giving hints for research, that will quickly reveal the best forms of magnesium to take (glycinate, chloride).

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johnchristopher wrote: post #158
disabled wrote: post #140

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In my early 30s: Pretty sure I had COVID-19 in early March 2020. I had shortness of breath for a couple of days and I was feverish for about 8 weeks. Afterwards, I have severe fatigue. I also experienced bouts, off an on for like a week or two at a time, where I could not physically get warm, and I was freezing to death, no matter what I did. I also have severe dysautonomia (autonomic nervous system dysfunction) whic…

Which Garmin watch model do you have ?

I have a Garmin Fenix 6 Pro, which I had before I got sick with COVID-19. However, it is spendy (expensive).

I did a search and Body Battery is available on cheaper models like the Garmin Vivosmart 4 ($129 USD). I put into DuckDuckGo and verified:

"Garmin" AND "vivosmart" AND "body battery"

Link to Garmin Vivosmart 4: https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/605739

Proof: https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/vivosmart4/EN-US/GUI...

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by bserge »

austincheney wrote: post #93
perlgeek wrote: post #69

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> I will always wonder if I had called them earlier if I could have avoided the worst of this Given the prevalence of Long Covid in asymptomatic cases, many people claim that the severity of the initial disease and the long-term symptoms are not really correlated. So it's likely that seeking emergency care wouldn't have changed anything. Wishing you the best of luck and a good/complete recovery!

Symptomatic or not if you carry the virus you should still pop hot on an antibody test. You would think. I had a Covid positive coworker last year cough around me and directly work very closely with me immediately before taking sick time. I still continued to fail the antibody tests indicating either no viral contact or no immune response of any kind. I don’t know if there is a correlation here but in a six month per…

You will test positive for antibodies for months after infection.

Kind of the whole point of the immune system and the vaccine.

Contrary to some beliefs, Covid doesn't spread by people looking, touching or talking to each other. The latter has a higher chance, though.

It's highly likely you've never gotten it from your coworker.

Assuming you mean antibody blood tests, I don't know anyone who would willingly take several of them in a short time.

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by aortega »

johnchristopher wrote: post #158
disabled wrote: post #140

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In my early 30s: Pretty sure I had COVID-19 in early March 2020. I had shortness of breath for a couple of days and I was feverish for about 8 weeks. Afterwards, I have severe fatigue. I also experienced bouts, off an on for like a week or two at a time, where I could not physically get warm, and I was freezing to death, no matter what I did. I also have severe dysautonomia (autonomic nervous system dysfunction) whic…

Which Garmin watch model do you have ?

The Garmin instinct have that function and works great. There are way cheaper options like the Fitbit charge, it also has a body-battery and is very accurate.

BTW I never had covid but if my body battery gets below 20, I also feel like shit. That´s the point I guess.

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Post by lambdaba »

fragmede wrote: post #165
sebmellen wrote: post #71

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I am not sure what I think of your comment, but I think it at least deserves discussion. I have used said supplements before. In fact, I have a close friend who is very enamored with supplements and has about 50 different pill bottles in his medicine drawer. Out of curiosity, I once spent two weeks taking about 25 pills a day at his recommendation, and I'm afraid they did not do very much for me — at least that I cou…

I mean, if you're basically fine, then the supplements, which have had studies run, aren't really going to do much for you unless you're really in tune with your body. For extreme cases of long covid, however, the right set of vitamin supplements are life saving. (I'm not exaggerating. eg https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/long-covid-patie... ) There are absolutely scammers selling trash (there's someone sel…

This is my stance exactly. It doesn't hurt to try, and you will learn a lot in the process. Also, some of these are proven by science, just remember there is a lot of science out there and doctors are only aware of a tiny fraction of it.

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Post by disabled »

aortega wrote: post #174
johnchristopher wrote: post #158

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Which Garmin watch model do you have ?

The Garmin instinct have that function and works great. There are way cheaper options like the Fitbit charge, it also has a body-battery and is very accurate. BTW I never had covid but if my body battery gets below 20, I also feel like shit. That´s the point I guess.

Thank you for the recommendation, which is thoughtful. One thing that you may want to keep in mind: Garmin has to follow GDPR, while FitBit (Google) does not.

You may not want Google (e.g. YouTube) serving you ads when it knows you are in a very low body battery state, for example.

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

mygoodaccount wrote: post #19
jacquesm wrote: post #14

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Ah yes, the heart thing. Forgot to mention that because it hasn't happened for a couple of months now but I would wake up at night every now and then with my heart going like I just ran a marathon. But that fortunately completely went away. As for lung capacity: I used to play saxophone pretty fanatically and I think that is one of the reasons I got through this with a relatively low amount of damage.

> As for lung capacity: I used to play saxophone pretty fanatically and I think that is one of the reasons I got through this with a relatively low amount of damage. Funnily enough, I used to play the flute and sing before contracting COVID. With my lung capacity halved, my ability is nowhere near what it used to be. Long COVID has taken all my hobbies away from me: running, singing, hip-hop dancing. If anyone knows…

Have you tried postural drainage for your lungs? I ask because if you've lost half your lung capacity (and I expect a singer and flute player would know), then you must have some kind of junk in there.

For those not familiar with the term: You position yourself with your head a foot lower than your hips (and your back straight). You hold that for 15 minutes or so. You let gravity pull the junk out of your lungs down to where you can cough it out. Warning: It's not fun. First, your head feels like it's going to explode from the lung pressure. Second, when a chunk comes out, oxygen starts hitting an area of your lungs for the first time in maybe months. That hurts. (Or so my daughter says. She had to do this.)

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by johnchristopher »

spookthesunset wrote: post #128
iammisc wrote: post #49

When my first daughter was born in 2018, I had a respiratory infection. It lasted three months before I went in to the doctor. I hesitated to seek medical advice because it was clearly viral. But the cough was so bad it was causing the newborn to wake up. The doctor (at a walk-in clinic) told me viral respiratory infections can last months and there's nothing you can do. Just wait. HE gave me some pills to stop the c…

> doctors are surprised that COVID may do the same? Because we all decided to collectively forget every single thing we know about respiratory viruses and infectious diseases. Somehow because covid is "novel" the world needed to rebuild our entire knowledge base from the ground up. A good example is how lasting t-cell immunity was dismissed for the longest time (and still is in many circles). People apparently seemed…

> If we kept getting infected with the same virus over and over... humanity would have died off a long time ago....

But it's only recently (~50-100 years) that we travel around the world so much, would covid-19 have propagated like it's doing now 300 or 2000 years ago ?

Re: Burden of post-Covid-19 syndrome and implications for healthcare planning

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Post by spookthesunset »

CarelessExpert wrote: post #167
spookthesunset wrote: post #149

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> far-right talking point Expressing skepticism surrounding the efficiency of social distancing, masks, "non essential business" and all these lockdowns is not a "far right" talking point. None of our response was in any playbook for this level of threat. We threw out all our pandemic planning in a fit on hysteria and panic. To this day we cannot say for certain that lockdowns did anything at all, let alone enough to…

> Expressing skepticism surrounding the efficiency of social distancing, masks, "non essential business" and all these lockdowns is not a "far right" talking point. You're absolutely right. This kind of misinformation isn't limited to the far right. > To this day we cannot say for certain that lockdowns did anything at all, LOL, what? This is a truly astonishingly statement. Literally every place that instituted lock…

I am absolutely making this claim in good faith.

Where is your studies showing these restrictions worked well enough to justify their immense costs to society? They don’t exist. To date I’ve yet to see a single cost benefit analysis done for any of this. It simply wasn’t allowed to be done… you’d get shouted down by the mob.

It worries me greatly how little critical thinking has been applied to the last 17+ months. It’s appeals to authority all the way down.

Show me the proof this stuff worked… and even then we didn’t know it would work going in, which makes it incredibly ethically (and morally) challenged. The last 17 months have shown me the depths of what humanity can do when gripped with fear and hysteria… it is pretty terrifying.

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