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Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For those downvoting, this is accurate according to his current lawsuit(s) against him While the claims in the lawsuit may eventually be proven, the fact that something has been alleged in a lawsuit is not even remotely similar to substantive evidence that it is true.

hence why I said "according to the current lawsuit(s) against him"...

That doesn't excuse the poor phrasing, even if it corrects for it.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#172

The reasoning is quite simple: Lee wants to force everybody away from Freenode to Libera so that he has full control and power over an empty Freenode network.

Why, though? How does that benefit him in any way?

The most likely theory I've seen so far is that he wants to make it Free in the Parler/4chan sense, using the positive karma balance behind the word Freenode to legitimize it. This, like all other theories, is not supported by strong enough evidence that it can be declared certain.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#174
post #133

So once everything is taken over is the plan to make this into some alternative to parlar, but with all the chat rooms seeded with the history of the groups before the takeover ?

IRC channels don't have any history. That's the main reason it's not usable on mobile.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#177
post #6

Why doesn't the new Freenode staff just shut down the IRC servers? That would be a lot less work than killing off each channel individually.

Well...they're not shutting down the servers. Just wiping the registrations and starting anew: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27510192

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what’s odd to me is how high freenode’s numbers still are. That’s a lot of people. If all the major FOSS projects have moved on, and with all the bad press, how is it there are still so many people on it? What channels are they on? Is their death greatly exaggerated?

If you look at the amount of actual chat, it's already far below Libera. What this means is that probably most of the users left are either bouncers or lurkers that just haven't disconnected yet. However, this is speculation on my part.

And people might not have turned off their autojoins. It's not like lurking in a different server takes any effort.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#179
post #155
post #63

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TLDR Bullet Point version. * Founder lilo/Rob died. * Christel became new head of staff. * Christel "sold" Freenode to Andrew Lee (of which was not hers to sell) and never told the rest of Freenode staff the terms. * Lee decided to assert himself by claiming he owned all of Freenode and that the staff had to hand over the keys to the kingdom to him. * Staff resisted, Lee used threats. Staff decided it was better to m…

Is it known how much money Christel got?

No.

However, it should be noted that she is the CCO of PIA, which was Lee's company before he sold it.

Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff

#180
post #114

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IRC is not exactly booming. Those who have fled during this exodus will probably not return. And trying to get people who don't already use IRC on board will be even more difficult.

They probably won't return. They're certainly not going to return to Freenode, though. IRC doesn't need to boom. The communities matter; IRC is just a protocol.

Ah yes, I meant return to Freenode. IRC need not be booming, but since it isn’t the "burn to the ground and rebuild" strategy will not work. As you said, communities is what matters and once they have moved they have little reason to return.
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