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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#171

I know it's meant to be a hippopotamus, but the default desktop background just reminds me of a couple of hairy testicles. https://res.cloudinary.com/canonical/image/fetch/f_auto,q_au... Definitely changing that after install, I don't want to be greeted by a giant parcel of pubes when I log in.

While I don't see that right away, I do think the image could have done without the hair.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#173

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I fail to see how moving to a rolling release strategy results in any kind of "death", seems like FUD to me. Rolling release, trying to stick to upstream releases as closely as possible, works well with Arch Linux, I'm glad CentOS learned from Arch Linux success. DISCLAMER: I'm not even a CentOS user, but I just like what RH does and has done for "the Linux community" as you call it (I would just call it "society" bu…

For many, the reason to use CentOS was that it was stable and supported for 10 years. They killed that and personally I agree with the GP that they have probably killed CentOS along with it. CentOS Stream is "positioned as a midstream between Fedora Linux and RHEL". I'm not sure who this will appeal to but it's not the same group as before.

Exactly midstream between Fedora and RHEL. Who is this target audience exactly ... agree completely was not the same audience that used CentOS.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#174
post #17

Thank you to Canonical for keeping Ubuntu a free and open source operating system with long term support! With the death of CentOS (replaced by an unstable upstream of RHEL) it means a lot to the Linux community.

I fail to see how moving to a rolling release strategy results in any kind of "death", seems like FUD to me. Rolling release, trying to stick to upstream releases as closely as possible, works well with Arch Linux, I'm glad CentOS learned from Arch Linux success. DISCLAMER: I'm not even a CentOS user, but I just like what RH does and has done for "the Linux community" as you call it (I would just call it "society" bu…

Hey: Please read the answer to this comment first. It contains some very important clarifications. Leaving the comment up for completeness, context and admittance of error. Happy reading.

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Disclaimer: We use CentOS on almost all of our servers at production level for 10+ years.

The main problem with CentOS is not moving into a rolling release schedule, but change of its place in the ecosystem.

Before, CentOS was the last tier. Fedora was testing ideas, RedHat was implementing them, and CentOS was following the trail by porting them later. There was an unwritten agreement that RedHat didn't prevent CentOS' development, and CentOS didn't port everything at day 1, so they were in a mutualistic state. Moreover, CentOS enjoyed a ~10 year support on every release, so it was the soul-successor of the original RedHat from the olden times.

Now, CentOS moved to pre-RH position. So Fedora experiments, CentOS makes the Beta & RC testing and RedHat gets more thoroughly tested patches and, that's it. CentOS is moving to a Debian Testing meets Arch Linux position. It's neither stable as Debian Testing, Nor supported like Arch and lacks any official support and possibly no security patch support.

This is problematic for many places since CentOS was the RPM Equivalent of Debian Stable. Now, there's no RedHat based free and community-driven and community-supported distro. People who can't use CentOS in its future state will either migrate to RedHat or to Ubuntu or Debian Stable.

For us, and for other data centers which do the same thing as us, current situation is a very big let's wait and see game.

For the health of the ecosystem, we need another fully free (as in beer & as in speech) and fully supported distribution. Hope Rocky can fill that void.

I'll continue to use Debian on my personal systems, for foreseeable future.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#175

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To be honest I'm not a fan of this. Linux was one of the few ways to stay free of the behemoth of corporate, invasive crapware that is forced upon employees. By evolving towards a full enterprise managed OS (with stuff like AD) this freedom will more and more be corrupted.

Linux had AD integrations 15 years ago. You just had to configure Kerberos yourself (oh, how often have I googled "Linux AD interoperability"...)

Kind of. You could do domain logins, but pushing policy down from the AD was at best partially implemented.

Also, it's kind of buggy. I have some Ubuntu 20 machines set to do AD logins here and more often than not it just stalls until it times out on login with no useful diagnostic messages emitted. Very frustrating.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#176

I know it's meant to be a hippopotamus, but the default desktop background just reminds me of a couple of hairy testicles. https://res.cloudinary.com/canonical/image/fetch/f_auto,q_au... Definitely changing that after install, I don't want to be greeted by a giant parcel of pubes when I log in.

I thought the same thing, except my brain thought it looked like a hairy butt.

I know this is a really dumb thing to comment on when there's so much actual substantive change in this release, but this image is literally the first impression new users will get for the next six months, and will be the thumbnail for tons of tutorials and such during the next year. It probably could've done with another revising pass.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#177

> Firefox, OBS Studio and many applications built with Electron and Flutter take advantage of Wayland automatically, for smoother graphics and better fractional scaling. I think it's great that Firefox is bundled with Ubuntu, but I have to manually update Firefox each time a new release comes out because the version that's installed is a canonical-controlled version that stays 'stuck' on a old version and doesn't hav…

> but I have to manually update Firefox each time a new release comes out because the version that's installed is a canonical-controlled version that stays 'stuck' on a old version and doesn't have an auto-update mechanism.

What? It is updated just like any other software by using the package manager

https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firefox

I actively don't want random app-specific auto-updaters; I want one package manager.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#178

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The bootloader was broken for this laptop model in 19.10 and I've been deferring going through the same pain upgrading to 20.04. Totally aware of the support situation and upgrade sequence, but an unsupported machine sure beats a bricked machine

You should definitely go to the pain of upgrading to 21.04, since xx.04 releases get updates for 5 years instead of 6 months.

21.04 is not an LTS with 5 years of support. The latest LTS is 20.04.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#179

I have been following the Ubuntu homepage for about 15 years, and it's so interesting how they went from prominently promoting every CTA around downloading the desktop version, to now, where I had to spend 5 minutes trying to find a link on their site to the ubuntu.com/desktop site.

This is actually incredible. I can't believe it's this hard to get your hands on their most important product.

I can totally imagine this costing several would-be-users

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

#180
post #11

It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

I've been out of the loop, but what is the interest in Wayland exactly? It's a display server; what is the interest in it over X11? Outdated?
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