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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by Valmar »

donatzsky wrote: post #77
podiki wrote: post #46

I can't live without uBlock Origin and uMatrix, and was sad to see uMatrix archived [0]. Still works great, but I'm wondering what will happen long term. Anyone also use both and since drop uMatrix for something else, or just uBlock? How is it? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24532973

As I remember it, you really shouldn't be using both at the same time. Don't remember why, only that it's a bad idea. And you can set up uBlock to do most of what uMatrix does anyway.

It's because there was some overlap in their functionality.

What I did was disable the overlapping functionality in uBlock Origin, and let uMatrix handle the rest.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by wccrawford »

linknoid wrote: post #145
karaterobot wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have been using Firefox as my daily driver for 3+ years now. Haven't encountered a single case of sites working any worse than on Chrome. Really? It happens to me all the time. I can't log into my U.S. Bank account in Firefox, I can't submit a delivery order on Doordash in Firefox, and (just this morning) I couldn't validate a credit reporting form in Firefox. Now, despite those and many other examples, I continu…

The only two places I use Chrome are Netflix and Costco. Costco's behavior is just plain weird: "Access Denied You don't have permission to access " http://www.costco.com/ " on this server." Is this from running NoScript? Or does it affect all Firefox users? (Also the URL is https:// , not http:// , so the error message doesn't match the URL).

I've used Costco's site plenty of times on Firefox. I just double-checked Windows right now, and I'm pretty sure I've used it on OSX/Firefox in the past.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by jdubb »

voxic11 wrote: post #27
sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

I agree, ublock origin was my single most important reason to finally switch from chrome mobile to firefox mobile.

There are some quirks though, minor annoyances that every so often get introduced in updates. For example, when closing the last private browsing tab it doesn't automatically show the regular tabs any more, but instead requires three more taps. But I'm happy to ignore those for the sole reason of having fully functional ad-blocking.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by u801e »

paxys wrote: post #58
sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I have been using Firefox as my daily driver for 3+ years now. Haven't encountered a single case of sites working any worse than on Chrome. I also recently started using Firefox full-time on my work machine despite IT strongly mandating that all our tools only work on Chrome and everyone should use that. Have had zero problems (and we use every Google service under the sun).

The only website I regularly use that doesn't work with Firefox is Google voice.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by croutonwagon »

ravenstine wrote: post #81
sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I think Firefox's shortcomings are overstated. Often they're actually Mozilla's rather than Firefox's. There are other things I consider superior about Firefox that Chrome has yet to implement: - Multi-account containers is a killer feature IMO. I have different containers for banking, Facebook, a container for every email, a container for every Google/YouTube account, and so forth. - The option to enable canvas perm…

I had to remove multi-account containers due to issues with syncing, namely on a windows 8.1 install, and it causing a TON of browser bloat and CPU usage on MacOS and Linux and my windows 10 desktop in a fairly recent past.

It’s unfortunate. Plan to try it again but it was borderline burdensome that x containers or place settings wouldn’t sync or that the Mac mini or linux box would start sounding like a jet engine.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by NathanielK »

ineptech wrote: post #148
voxic11 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

Same experience here! The only problem I have is that the Android search bar seems to ignore the default Browser setting, but avoiding it (opening FF rather than using the search bar widget) is a small price to pay for avoiding ads so effectively.

You can use the launcher too. If you set the launcher to open a new tab, it'll bring the keyboard up too. This means you're one tap from searching your query in the browser.

If you have a good keyboard, you can even use DDG !bang syntax. I find this very helpful for finding what I want fast.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by blub »

I started using Brave in addition to Firefox recently and I was curious if it supports this. Seems like it does (https://brave.com/privacy-updates-6/) and uBlock origin was the inspiration for that feature.

I never used uBlock, but I did use uMatrix (discontinued, but still working) which allows you very fine grained control over scripts and other resources based on the domain. Unfortunately it was a pain to get some things to work with that, especially online payments which use many subdomains and redirects. Paying for anything online was a game of enabling 10 domains on average, reloading the website, re-inputting payment info, etc. Some websites (like twitter) simply didn't work even if one enabled all the domains which appeared in the matrix.

Brave is pretty decent at blocking JS. Not as fine grained as uMatrix, and it apparently doesn't remember that you enabled things (at least in private browsing). I think it doesn't perform what uBlock calls HTML filtering, because it still makes requests to websites which were completely neutered by uMatrix. All in all it's more pleasant to surf using Brave than Firefox, because fewer websites are broken by the blocking.

I wasn't pleased with Safari's native tracking protection + a simple Safari blocking extension which only looks at URLs. Websites work the best, but it's making requests to many unwanted domains still. Maybe it's blocking cookies and scripts, no idea, but I'm not happy even with the simple requests for resources going through.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by timbit42 »

clircle wrote: post #42

This is technical and interesting, but can anyone tell the difference between web browsing with FF/uBo and Chrome/uBo? I personally cannot, other than that the fonts render a bit differently. Webpages load fast and no ads get through in both cases.

The first chart in the article explains the difference. It's not so much about being able to tell the difference, but how much it is protecting you in the background.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by nvrspyx »

krisdol wrote: post #149
katsura wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Pop-out videos (aka picture-in-picture) Chrome has this.

No it doesn't? I'm on Chrome right now and cannot pop out vimeo videos. Youtube appears to have a "pseudo" pop-out that I suspect is their own js-driven miniplayer thing. Just a fancy change to the DOM. You can't resize, drag the video around, or watch it from other tabs or with chrome unfocused/minimized.

> You can't resize, drag the video around, or watch from other tabs or with chrome unfocused/minimized

Umm...you can do all of those things. You might have to right click the video twice to get the picture-in-picture option (to get around the contextual menu of many video players including YouTube) or you can use the official extension that you click to popout whatever video is on the webpage.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by Noughmad »

stevewodil wrote: post #82
shmerl wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never really got the appeal of Chrome. Firefox worked very well for me for years.

Yeah I never really got the appeal of Firefox. Chrome worked very well for me for years.

Firefox is older than Chrome. Did you use IE before that or are you just that young?
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