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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#141

Can someone ELI5 the pros and cons of using uBlock Origin and/or uMatrix? Should I be using one, either, both? Are they competitors or complementary? What does each do best?

uMatrix provides fine grained control in a matrix by domain names (rows) vs various permissions to grant (columns).

Example: Allow domain foo.com to run scripts, but domain bar.com cannot run script, no cookies, but css and images are okay.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#142
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Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

>spoiled by FF+uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. I run FF+uBlock on my S21 Ultra. Works just like the desktop.

Not possible with an iPhone, I presume.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#144

> The Firefox version of uBO makes use of WebAssembly code for core filtering code paths. This is not the case with Chromium-based browsers because this would require an extra permission in the extension manifest which could cause friction when publishing the extension in the Chrome Web Store. Anyone know what this extra permission is and why requesting this extra permission would cause friction?

UBlock already had a new version rejected a while ago. Big HN thread at the time.

Presumably they are just really careful to avoid giving Google any excuses.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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I have been using Firefox as my daily driver for 3+ years now. Haven't encountered a single case of sites working any worse than on Chrome. I also recently started using Firefox full-time on my work machine despite IT strongly mandating that all our tools only work on Chrome and everyone should use that. Have had zero problems (and we use every Google service under the sun).

> I have been using Firefox as my daily driver for 3+ years now. Haven't encountered a single case of sites working any worse than on Chrome. Really? It happens to me all the time. I can't log into my U.S. Bank account in Firefox, I can't submit a delivery order on Doordash in Firefox, and (just this morning) I couldn't validate a credit reporting form in Firefox. Now, despite those and many other examples, I continu…

The only two places I use Chrome are Netflix and Costco. Costco's behavior is just plain weird:

"Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://www.costco.com/" on this server."

Is this from running NoScript? Or does it affect all Firefox users? (Also the URL is https://, not http://, so the error message doesn't match the URL).

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#146

Can someone ELI5 the pros and cons of using uBlock Origin and/or uMatrix? Should I be using one, either, both? Are they competitors or complementary? What does each do best?

If you're on a Mac, using Firefox with uBlock Origin is a realy nice experience:

- no ads on Youtube

- I prefer the Firefox dev tools over Chrome for vanilla-js.

FYI: I'm one of the earliest and longest-term users of Firefox, starting at Netscape in 2000. Never had a reason to switch.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#147

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Strong agree on multi account containers. Keep in mind though if you disable them they drop all settings, unlike every other add-on ... ever. Bug is three years old but maybe we can push it over the top: https://github.com/mozilla/multi-account-containers/issues/1...

There is also no way to rearrange your containers aside from deleting them and making new ones in the desired order. Since I am using this for o365 administration it is a little annoying that I can't keep them in alphabetical order to find them easily.

This is something that I don't like about firefox. They have a ton of cool stuff, but I feel that they are always lacking a few things.

What I always give as an example, is how to add custom searches (Amazon, Reddit, HN, etc), you save the query url and add a keyword. Works very well to type `rdt something` and have the results. But: there's no option in the menu to see all keywords/search engines you have registered.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

Same experience here! The only problem I have is that the Android search bar seems to ignore the default Browser setting, but avoiding it (opening FF rather than using the search bar widget) is a small price to pay for avoiding ads so effectively.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#149

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I think Firefox's shortcomings are overstated. Often they're actually Mozilla's rather than Firefox's. There are other things I consider superior about Firefox that Chrome has yet to implement: - Multi-account containers is a killer feature IMO. I have different containers for banking, Facebook, a container for every email, a container for every Google/YouTube account, and so forth. - The option to enable canvas perm…

> Pop-out videos (aka picture-in-picture) Chrome has this.

No it doesn't? I'm on Chrome right now and cannot pop out vimeo videos. Youtube appears to have a "pseudo" pop-out that I suspect is their own js-driven miniplayer thing. Just a fancy change to the DOM. You can't resize, drag the video around, or watch it from other tabs or with chrome unfocused/minimized.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#150

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

It amazes me that a consensus seems to have formed around this conclusion that Firefox is technically inferior. I have always been using it and it has always been a fantastic browser relatively free of Google's icy tendrils. The technical issues that people bring up about it are usually nonexistent for me, and while I am troubled at its direction it remains an unusually solid and reliable workhorse given the stakes involved and the size of its userbase
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