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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by patrickk »

luckman212 wrote: post #105

I see a lot of complaints here, but nobody offering any substantive alternatives. Mikrotik is mentioned several times, but always with the caveats that it has glitchy UIs or poorly implemented features. EnGenius... you've got to be kidding. I've been a UI fan for many years and was also dismayed by the 6.x releases and the switch to Mediatek, but every time I went looking around, I saw the same tire fires at other ve…

Building your own router with pfSense is one prosumer solution I've considered, by shied away from due to lack of time[1]. Not sure how a pfSense setup would work with wireless APs though.

[1] https://www.pcgamer.com/i-built-my-own-super-router-out-of-o...

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by izacus »

biftek wrote: post #74
worldmerge wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any brands you would recommended for home use for "prosumers"?

I recently upgraded my home network and went with mikrotik (an RB4011). RouterOS is incredibly deep

It's also incredibly userunfriendly and lacking features for home users. I have both UniFi APs and a Mikrotik router and configuring RouterOS reminds me of trying to setup PPPoE internet on a Linux machine in 1990s.

A lot of manual settings with obvious features (NAT acceleration, NAT loopback, good VPN client, easy QoS, reasonable firewall) being extremely hard to configure well in comparison to competing SOHO equipment.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by wyuenho »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #170
wyuenho wrote: post #139

I'm going to go out on a limb here to point out the inconsistency of this entire thread. For the following reasoning, I'm going to use the word "ad" in the broad sense. 1. Everybody is excited with Github's new features that they promote on the dashboard. Sometimes popups and flashes too. Are they not ads? 2. Nobody ever complains about Github showing ads. 3. Github is a SaaS. 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS 5. OP is compl…

> 3. Github is a SaaS. > 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS One of those is not like the other. Unify UI is completely useless without a corresponding purchase of a physical good. I don't care about Github's "ads" (quotes are intentional) because (1) they most unintrusive (2) not selling me an expensive piece of hardware

Either they are ads or they are not, whether they are intrusive or what they are selling, or even aren't selling anything are immaterial. If they are promoting something, it's an ad.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by hansel_der »

petersellers wrote: post #154
dkhenry wrote: post #86

I have been watching Ubiquiti slowly go downhill over the past five years. I finally jumped ship to Mikrotik for a recent addition to my network and they seem like a good replacement for power users. Nothing they sell is quite as user friendly as the Ubiquiti gear, but I would rather have to spend a few minutes at a console then loose control over my network because a SaaS went offline

> loose control over my network because a SaaS went offline That doesn't sound correct. I've always been able to access my controller without internet access as long as I was on the same LAN and was hitting the controller IP directly.

certainly a hyperbole from op.

but i have to agree that it is no far fetched for ubiquiti to fuck this up.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by wp381640 »

luckman212 wrote: post #105

I see a lot of complaints here, but nobody offering any substantive alternatives. Mikrotik is mentioned several times, but always with the caveats that it has glitchy UIs or poorly implemented features. EnGenius... you've got to be kidding. I've been a UI fan for many years and was also dismayed by the 6.x releases and the switch to Mediatek, but every time I went looking around, I saw the same tire fires at other ve…

I'm just going to cash up and pay for Ruckus for my Wifi6 upgrade

OTOH not sure what i'd recommend to others - there must be 20+ unifi networks out that via recommendations i've made to friends + network

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Post by caskstrength »

wyuenho wrote: post #139

I'm going to go out on a limb here to point out the inconsistency of this entire thread. For the following reasoning, I'm going to use the word "ad" in the broad sense. 1. Everybody is excited with Github's new features that they promote on the dashboard. Sometimes popups and flashes too. Are they not ads? 2. Nobody ever complains about Github showing ads. 3. Github is a SaaS. 4. unify.ui.com is a SaaS 5. OP is compl…

I'm using Github for free, but I paid Ubiquiti a lot of money for their hardware. For me this is the major difference and the reason why I have different expectations while using their services.

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Post by bigiain »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #100
trylfthsk wrote: post #85

I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is. I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness. > I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them Paraphrasin…

“The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads.” –Jeff Hammerbacher

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by lilyball »

justinjlynn wrote: post #50
kogir wrote: post #47

Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

It's really sad. I used to recommend UniFi and their other hardware without a second's hesitation to all of my friends and the software and hardware quality control has just gone so far down hill. Now they're putting ads and privacy violating code in the admin user interface? What a complete disregard for user security and privacy in one of the most important places for it. Ugh. Add that to their GPL violations ( htt…

What privacy violating code?

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by lilyball »

To be honest, the reaction here seems rather absurd. From the screenshot, the user doesn’t have a USG, so the management interface can’t show data it otherwise would. This banner suggesting a UDMP is occupying space that would have otherwise just said “no data available”. It’s a bit obnoxious and should really have a “hide this” button, but it’s really pretty minor all things considered.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

lilyball wrote: post #179

To be honest, the reaction here seems rather absurd. From the screenshot, the user doesn’t have a USG, so the management interface can’t show data it otherwise would. This banner suggesting a UDMP is occupying space that would have otherwise just said “no data available”. It’s a bit obnoxious and should really have a “hide this” button, but it’s really pretty minor all things considered.

> This banner suggesting a UDMP is occupying space that would have otherwise just said “no data available”

I disagree, simply because that "space" is also known as "the top half of the screen", AKA "above the fold" and "prime real estate".

The user would obviously be better served by moving the functional parts of the UI upwards.

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