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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Yeah it's a pretty big bummer. I used to recommend their stuff a lot and I don't know if I'll be able to do that from now on. It's not like their hardware is cheap, I'd much rather pay a monthly subscription than be served ads.

> I'd much rather pay a monthly subscription than be served ads. Why not both?! /s but probably for real eventually.

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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

The craziest part is they were poised to dominated the SOHO / MSP markets. There’s NO competition or viable products in those markets. I’ve searched high and low. Instead of focusing on their strengths like great value with self hosted management infrastructure, they look like they’re setting up to force subscriptions on their users. All of the subscription BS for centralized management is so expensive that it’s lite…

This.If I’m gonna have to waste time and effort to block my network gear sending its spy data back home, and blocking ads it tries to show, why wouldn’t I just do that on much cheaper throwaway Chinese hardware? I’m much more likely to buy stuff like TPLink gear that can be flashed with OpenWRT, or jump feet first into Mikrotik gear - than ever spend more money on Ubiquity’s modern shitware...

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Latest thing that set me off was noticing Mandalorian wallpapers on my Pixel phone.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I see a lot of complaints here, but nobody offering any substantive alternatives. Mikrotik is mentioned several times, but always with the caveats that it has glitchy UIs or poorly implemented features. EnGenius... you've got to be kidding.

I've been a UI fan for many years and was also dismayed by the 6.x releases and the switch to Mediatek, but every time I went looking around, I saw the same tire fires at other vendors. At least with UBNT it's "the devil you know".

Cambium is interesting, I've been playing around with their cnPilot stuff and it's been pretty solid.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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An advertisement for a company’s products on the login page is one thing - but a full on banner in the interface itself (with apparently no way to disable) is another. Sticking with Mikrotik for now.

Mikrotik user here, I find their software really clunky and buggy. My dream networking gear for my house is whitebox switches that I can run Debian on, but I can't find any at an economical price. Anyone know of 5-12 port ARM switches?

Maybe ten64 or Turris stuff:

https://www.crowdsupply.com/traverse-technologies/ten64/ https://www.turris.com/en/

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Ubiquiti has really fallen far. The 5.x series of controller with the AP AC (S)HD was great, but everything since has been hot garbage. The 6.x series of controllers is still basically a public beta and riddled with bugs. The newer MediaTek based APs have constant problems with client device compatibility, and can’t even reliably support DHCP on the newest official firmware and controller versions (or any of the last…

It's really sad. I used to recommend UniFi and their other hardware without a second's hesitation to all of my friends and the software and hardware quality control has just gone so far down hill. Now they're putting ads and privacy violating code in the admin user interface? What a complete disregard for user security and privacy in one of the most important places for it. Ugh. Add that to their GPL violations ( htt…

I’m in the same boat. I think it’s pretty weird that these days I’m more comfortable setting up a new router on the OpenBSD command line than I am with a Ubiquiti GUI.

TP-Link has actually upped their game with routers and APs lately. The next time I’m doing an installation that doesn’t need big-boy stuff from Cisco I’m going with them.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

#108
three days ago smallnetbuilder reviewed a bunch of routers. I noted that the most recent router on the list that could run openwrt was the three year old r7800. someone mentioned building their own box for an ap and I discussed how hard it is to get wifi add-on cards[1], and oh, by the way, good luck running anything modern yourself.

the state of our wifis, right now, is extremely poor. upmarket expensive gear becoming a hostile rent-seeking shark is a sign of how late-stage the market is right now.

i will allow: there is a lag somewhat to be expected. wave2 and wifi6 and wifi6e have been all kind of sounding this new stuff stuff out. wifi6e feels a bit like a natural culmination, for a while, but we're only just making it across a long series of changes just now. the standards have been in flux, enhancing.

still, the driver situation feels terrible. hardware is hard to get except as consumer electronics running provided shrinkware. even in terms of stations not ap's, companies like intel can both do a good job, insure reasonable support, decent enough hardware these days, but also neglect basic love & care things like support for 802.11s mesh & other sincere basics.

anyhow. wifi6e looks like the culmination of a lot. the situation might stabilize some. the future is finally here & only now do we commence more evenly distributing use/usability of it. maybe. maybe not. maybe vendorization floggings will continue. i'm hoping somehow more ap class add-on systems start becoming in any way available again. hoping systems like wifi-p2p and wifi-aware and wifi mesh (802.11s) see general support. I'd love to see some pro-active movements in wifi world, some chipmakers really doing right, but wifi feels forever like the most cagey & slowest developing linux driver area. communication, not well supported.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26597238

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

I'm even more concerned about the second order effects of so much being driven by driving clicks to ad dollars. This is obviously what causes the attention economy and maybe many of our negative trends in society. How much less attention would BS articles on anti-vax and QAnon nonsense get without all of this? How many fewer content farms that are just trying to waste my time would we have?

I would love to see how an alternative reality without advertisements would look. I'm not sure if we could ever fully accomplish this given that there always will be people willing to pay for eyeballs and people happy to take money or goods to change their messaging.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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post #94

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Thank you. Do Ruckus support wireless downlinks? I can't lay cables here, so the switch in my home office needs to be fed by an access point.

With unleashed they do. Its otherwise known as meshing pretty much anywhere else. https://docs.ruckuswireless.com/unleashed/200.1.9.12/c-MeshO... If you are talking long distances you need to start looking at directional antennas...But to say..span an A-Frame house...they would do fine as others as well.

It's just over two rooms and a hallway essentially, so should be fine. Thanks a lot!

EDIT: The "Wireless Bridge Topology" is exactly what I need, here, but it's not entirely clear to me yet if I'd really need two APs on the gateway side as the picture suggests: https://docs.ruckuswireless.com/unleashed/200.1.9.12/c-Suppo...

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