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NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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This has no word export option (unless I missed it) which makes it infeasible for a lot of writers. Like it or not, docx is the format a lot of folks in mainstream publishing expect. Context: My partner is a published author and I've pitched stuff like this at her on multiple occasions as an alternative to Scrivener. In addition to her laughing at my insistence that markdown is a superior way to write, she cites the…

> markdown is a superior way to write Is it though? I don't have any experience with book authoring but I would expect stuff like Geronimo Stilton to be hard to produce with markdown: it is peppered with creative text highlighting (e.g. words written in a custom cheese-pattern font) and this is common in primary school geared books. Even decidedly grown-up books like GEB might have illustrations and diagrams, and it'…

I think that House of Leaves can be left as an unaddressed edge-case for most novel-writing tools.

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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I see you hate the Unix philosophy....for conversions use pandoc. A Song of Ice and Fire was not written with Word.

When you too can afford to pay your editors, proofreaders, and publishers to accommodate your unique file formats and the associated changes to their workflow, you too can write in WordStar.

Since you obvious don't know what unix philosophy is, it's a md writer..that's it, you want to convert it..take a converter like pandoc. If you really think every writing program should have it's own converters..well then you end up with less interchangeable stuff. One tool for Writing another one for conversion..is that so complicated?

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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Looks fantastic! But, too late for me. I'm writing a novel now in emacs' orgmode (spacemacs) with lots of customization. The killer app for me is orgmode's foldable hierarchies of text. Beyond that even typing speed isn't my main bottleneck, it's ideas and sitting down in front of the keyboard and actually typing.

> it's ideas and sitting down in front of the keyboard and actually typing This is the crux of the challenge for every writer. At least for me, I use "finding the right tool" as a way to procrastinate from actually writing...

Yeah and "building my own editor that's just right for me" is a tempting next level procrastination.

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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I also use Ulysses and very happy with it (except for it being a subscription based product). The feature that I would miss the most by switching to novelWriter or another open source solution would be the following: - auto cloud sync across all devices (I can even write on my phone if I think of something while waiting for the bus) - print quality output in PDF and epub with a single click (and many available themes…

"auto cloud sync across all devices" hmmm - if it is an editor that handles text files, then myself, I would rely on one of the myriad of sync tools/platforms available, rather than have someone else's implementation

True and it's actually possible to use any tools you want as it supports local directories of markdown files (I use git to version my writing) but the product does not target at a technical audience but writers in general and their cloud sync is pretty well implemented. I like their cloud sync for the ability to sync with ios devices without doing anything in particular.

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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I don't get it. Why "markdown-like". Do people writing novels have some need that is unmet by an existing flavour of markdown? Because I have to say that the last thing that ecosystem needs is yet another flavour. I thought the entire point to markdown was that you didn't need a special editor . Which of course has done nothing to reduce their mushrooms-in-a-damp-cellar proliferation.

NB: I'm an emacs/org-mode/pandoc toolchain devotee (aficionado? cultmember?), so I should disclose that I don't get the point of most editing tools.

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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post #60

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I also use Ulysses and very happy with it (except for it being a subscription based product). The feature that I would miss the most by switching to novelWriter or another open source solution would be the following: - auto cloud sync across all devices (I can even write on my phone if I think of something while waiting for the bus) - print quality output in PDF and epub with a single click (and many available themes…

I use Ghostwriter, it's free. I write in a directory that is continuously synced to Dropbox. And I write in pandoc flavored markdown, so a single script can spit out compiled PDF or epub.

I've wanted to try it as it looks pretty slick but it's apparently "a [...] Markdown editor for Windows and Linux". Not much of an help if you are using macOS.

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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publishers format for print, but the submission needs to be in a specific format too. this stems from the days where manuscripts were submitted on paper, and not electronically. one could argue that with electronic submission such format requirements are no longer relevant, but we all know that people don't like change. standard manuscript format looks roughly like this: lines are double spaced first line of each par…

These requirements seem to be easily within pandoc’s ability though, as it can use a reference docx file.

indeed, see my other reply above, linking to an article explaining exactly how that works

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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Two of my favourite authors draft by hand, which I still do (we're all in our fifties). What I want is not yet another (sigh) editor for writers but OCR tools that can be trained for cursive and don't soil the bed on encountering a crossed out word or insertion.

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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I keep seeing references to markdown editors on HN. As a non-tech person it would have never crossed my mind to use something like this to write a novel or even keep notes, but it seems to really strike a chord here. Perhaps it's simply the comfort associated with code over a long period of time?

Part of it might be preference for plain text files with no vendor lock-in. Or it might be preference for explicitness, we've all fought with rich editors bleeding format from one word into another and struggling to un-format the text at the right location.

To play devil's advocate, ODF is (a) open, and (b) native in Word.

For that matter, docx is an ISO standard.

On the other side, I perpetually have to unformat my hard-wrapped lines, before I paste plain text into eg an email...

Re: NovelWriter 1.0 – A markdown-like editor for writing novels

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This has no word export option (unless I missed it) which makes it infeasible for a lot of writers. Like it or not, docx is the format a lot of folks in mainstream publishing expect. Context: My partner is a published author and I've pitched stuff like this at her on multiple occasions as an alternative to Scrivener. In addition to her laughing at my insistence that markdown is a superior way to write, she cites the…

I applaud the author for keeping everything text file based. In general, I think we should strive for non-proprietary, standard file formats. Isn't docx far too one-sided and controlled in that regard? I wonder if anyone has some info on the "state of affairs" for the "document format race".

To be fair, docx is non-proprietary. And as an ISO standard, it is a very standard format.
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