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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by klyrs »

paulgb wrote: post #101
mattkevan wrote: post #72

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My Epson has been bugging about a firmware update for ages. Not a chance I’m going to upgrade as it kicks up enough of a fuss about third-party ink as it is.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

Some inkjet printers have an extremely scuzzy behavior where they use all the colors to make "black" -- not because it's what you want, but to sell more ink

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by morpheuskafka »

lukevp wrote: post #104
paulgb wrote: post #101

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The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

The yellow ink is used to print a faint serial number on every page, meant to track back to you if you use the printer to counterfeit money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

> meant to track back to you if you use the printer to counterfeit money...

Lol, because a $100 printer from Amazon can just pop out sheets of cash, even though they don't have any color shifting ink, no way to do the lithograph printing.

I think these were developed before authorities realized how much power online (dis)information would have--it was all about trying to lock down speech and publication freedom, turning household printers into government minders.

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Post by cnity »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #163
cnity wrote: post #153

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Are these shill accounts? I've seen raving template-looking comments for Brother in every printer thread for the past few weeks. Get yourself a Edit: Sorry if I'm jumping the gun. Maybe they really are just great?

Hah, I get that; it's spookily consistent; but I happen to have exactly the same experience. I've gone through 3 (Epson) inkjets last decade (as I do need to print Photos - but only occasionally), and SO much consistent hassle with cleaning heads and refilling and bad prints. Meanwhile I have a Brother 2270DW for at least the last decade for regular printing and it just works . I've gone through the original small an…

I regret my tone. I let cynicism get the better of me there, sorry!

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by spicymaki »

AtlasLion wrote: post #57
jug wrote: post #33

I thought this was illegal and why the third party cartridge market is so big. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend inkjet printers for normal home users: for plain text, I'd use a B&W laserjet printer and if I had to print in color (like broschures or food recipes with photos), I'd use a color laserjet. For quality photos, I'd send them in to a professional service: it's still pretty cheap compared to inkjet printing... I'v…

I use inkjet printers and I am very satisfied. I am using an Epson printer with what they call EcoTank. Just tanks with different color inks that you can refill yourself.

Two major problems with the Epson EcoTank printer:

1) The Epson EcoTank has a fixed printhead system where if the printhead gets damaged or clogged, then replacing it can become expensive. Over time or if you do not print continuously, the printhead can become damaged and/or clogged. HP/Canon keeps the printhead on the cartridge itself so the printheads are replaced continuously.

2) There is an infamous problem "Epson Ink pad is at the end of its service life error". The Ink pad absorbs excess ink during printing and needs to be replaced after a while. Unfortunately to reset the error you need to send it back to Epson for servicing (even if you replace the inkpad itself). Epson claims that this error is also tied to the service lifetime of other parts in the system and they would need to be replaced as well (AKA: planned obsolescence).

The cost of shipping + servicing + parts replacement is more than just replacing the printer all together.

Even though the EcoTank fixes the ink refill issue it forces you to buy a whole new printer after a certain amount of use.

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Post by krupan »

lukevp wrote: post #104
paulgb wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

The yellow ink is used to print a faint serial number on every page, meant to track back to you if you use the printer to counterfeit money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

Yellow is also printed underneath black to make the black blacker

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Post by mobilio »

Nextgrid wrote: post #146
mobilio wrote: post #119

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VueScan it's good but doesn't helps if there isn't scanner drivers. I've have old ScanJet 3600C and it's still works flawless. But no drivers for new macOS versions. And short research found this: http://www.sane-project.org

The point of VueScan is that it acts as its own driver; it accesses the scanner directly via USB without relying on an OS-level driver so it should work (they have a free trial version to test with).

I've trying trial version and doesn't works for me.

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Post by Spivak »

floatingatoll wrote: post #155
jnxx wrote: post #154

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Only problem with Brother on Linux seems that they do bot distribute drivers in source code but a binary-only Debian package. So, while they seem to have a good reputation for Linux support, there is still lots of room for improvement. Ah, and also on the newwer Brother printers one has to do a complicated configuration menu dance to get rid of "Toner cartridge empty" warnings, in order to do a "Toner Reset", which l…

Why do you need a driver? I thought basically every 2020 printer - and CUPS - supported AirPrint.

And basically every printer natively supports PostScript and PCL which are "almost generic" but can come with a ppd file that has your printers specific options and error codes.

And I'm seeing lots of printers come with native PDF/DVI support which is nice.

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Post by hathym »

numpad0 wrote: post #95
bonoboTP wrote: post #74

Mine doesn't have the allow downgrades option I think. But this worked for me: > "Unplug printer’s power cord from the back of the printer Press and HOLD the power button Plug power cord back in (keep holding power button) The HP logo will appear then the screen will go blank Hold power button for 10 seconds and then release it Press HOME BUTTON ONCE (top left) Press RETURN/BACK ARROW ONCE (bottom left) Press HOME BU…

How do I use a printer without an Internet connected computer either connected to or integrated into it?

With hp instantink you are forced to connect to the internet if you want to receive ink refills

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Post by LeonM »

mobilio wrote: post #119
Nextgrid wrote: post #31

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A solution (if you still need the scanner) is to use VueScan: https://www.hamrick.com It's an application that has its own (reverse-engineered) drivers for many USB scanners that doesn't depend on the system having support for it. I've used it and it works perfectly, though the UI is quite complex at first glance due to the amount of various configuration options it offers.

VueScan it's good but doesn't helps if there isn't scanner drivers. I've have old ScanJet 3600C and it's still works flawless. But no drivers for new macOS versions. And short research found this: http://www.sane-project.org

I've tried endlessly to get SANE running on OS-X back then (in the SnowLeopard days) and could never get it running.

I guess I kind of lost my sanity with SANE ;-)

Anyway, it wasn't a solution, extremely hacky at most. Not something what you want to spend your time on if you buy a scanner that is supposed to work with your OS.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by numpad0 »

floatingatoll wrote: post #155
jnxx wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only problem with Brother on Linux seems that they do bot distribute drivers in source code but a binary-only Debian package. So, while they seem to have a good reputation for Linux support, there is still lots of room for improvement. Ah, and also on the newwer Brother printers one has to do a complicated configuration menu dance to get rid of "Toner cartridge empty" warnings, in order to do a "Toner Reset", which l…

Why do you need a driver? I thought basically every 2020 printer - and CUPS - supported AirPrint.

For features other than printing A4 business documents in Fast quality? Photos, CD-R, model making decals etc often require proprietary Windows drivers to do right.

For printing academic research papers in reverse page order to hand staple and read, indeed you don’t need drivers.

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