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How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by paulgb »

mattkevan wrote: post #72
breakingcups wrote: post #24

Besides all the obvious stuff, what also bugs me about this tactic is that it makes people weary of performing (or allowing automatic) firmware upgrades for printers, historically one of the least secure devices on a network.

My Epson has been bugging about a firmware update for ages. Not a chance I’m going to upgrade as it kicks up enough of a fuss about third-party ink as it is.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by ProZsolt »

remus wrote: post #48
arusahni wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some PDF viewers (e.g., Preview, Okular) let you place images of your signature on a document and then export the "signed" version. I haven't had issues with getting these documents accepted.

I've got a tablet so can actually sign PDFs with a proper signature. None the less, a company the other day insisted that I print out a form, sign it, take a picture of the signed form and send them that. It was almost enough to bin them off, but unfortunately I was deep enough in the bureaucracy by that point that sucking it up was less hassle.

I just use this oneliner to "scan" it:

convert -density 130 input.pdf -rotate 0.33 -attenuate 0.15 +noise Multiplicative -colorspace Gray output.pdf

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by busterarm »

mwexler wrote: post #87
jug wrote: post #33

I thought this was illegal and why the third party cartridge market is so big. Anyway, I wouldn't recommend inkjet printers for normal home users: for plain text, I'd use a B&W laserjet printer and if I had to print in color (like broschures or food recipes with photos), I'd use a color laserjet. For quality photos, I'd send them in to a professional service: it's still pretty cheap compared to inkjet printing... I'v…

It's often the "all-in-one" nature that make these printers so attractive. Yes, master of none, but most consumer grade lasers tend not to have copiers/scanners or (shudder) fax capability. The (deceivingly) low entry price for "all that power!" seals the deal. It also avoids having multiple printers, which is tough in a small room. So most folks take the quality hit knowingly, even as they don't prepare for the comp…

Yeah, but you can get a decent small-form factor scanner for ~$50 these days.

Tbh they're so cheap that often I'll buy one to use for a little while and give it away to some art student only to buy another later when I need one again. Just to save space.

It's still cheaper than using those horrid inkjet all in ones.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by lukevp »

paulgb wrote: post #101
mattkevan wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Epson has been bugging about a firmware update for ages. Not a chance I’m going to upgrade as it kicks up enough of a fuss about third-party ink as it is.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

The yellow ink is used to print a faint serial number on every page, meant to track back to you if you use the printer to counterfeit money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by ta988 »

paulgb wrote: post #101
mattkevan wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Epson has been bugging about a firmware update for ages. Not a chance I’m going to upgrade as it kicks up enough of a fuss about third-party ink as it is.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

Every time you turn an inkjet printer on and regularly if it stays on, it will squirt some ink on a sort of pad or in a padded reservoir. This is to avoid the cartridge to clog (and maybe also forcing people to buy new ink, but it is probably hard to prove what is the right amount for just unclogging).

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by zaarn »

numpad0 wrote: post #95
bonoboTP wrote: post #74

Mine doesn't have the allow downgrades option I think. But this worked for me: > "Unplug printer’s power cord from the back of the printer Press and HOLD the power button Plug power cord back in (keep holding power button) The HP logo will appear then the screen will go blank Hold power button for 10 seconds and then release it Press HOME BUTTON ONCE (top left) Press RETURN/BACK ARROW ONCE (bottom left) Press HOME BU…

How do I use a printer without an Internet connected computer either connected to or integrated into it?

My Laserprinter is connected via USB to my NAS. CUPS offers all the shenanigans, so it's autodetected by iDevices, Android, Windows and Mac on the network. Linux users usually figure it out within 30 minutes.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by ta988 »

lukevp wrote: post #104
paulgb wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The most infuriating thing about Epson inkjets is that they refuse to function if any color ink is low. I can't print black and white right now because I'm waiting on a yellow cartridge to arrive. Most bizarre is that I never actually print color, except for running calibration, so I don't know where all the ink went.

The yellow ink is used to print a faint serial number on every page, meant to track back to you if you use the printer to counterfeit money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

Oh there is that too... That would be interesting to have an estimationn of how much that makes.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by trboyden »

I still have no idea why people don't buy printers by first looking at what refills cost. It is simply baffling. The only way to penalize manufacturers that practice this type of anti-consumerism is to stop buying their products, not coming up with work-arounds. The average toner cartridge replacement from HP is $150. My Ricoh C261SFWn's replacement cartridge from Ricoh is $50. The quality is just as good and the Ricoh machine itself was cheaper than an HP. No brainer.

Re: How to revert HP printer’s ban on 3rd-party ink cartridges

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Post by busterarm »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #60
Havoc wrote: post #53

Home printers are dead anyway. The one thing I did still need them for (printing labels for packages) is being taken over by QR codes

Here that's one of the few things I still use mine for, printing QR labels for my outgoing parcels :P UPS, DHL and others still require us to print our own labels here. And QR codes are hard to write by hand ;)

That's what I bought a Rollo thermal printer for years ago for around $150.

Never spend on ink for shipping things again.

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