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Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by RussianCow »

transpostmeta wrote: post #93
bobince wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very this. My mind is not app-centric. I want the shell where I'm looking at logs, the editor where I'm taking notes, the browser where I'm checking some doc. I don't care to think about which terminal application the shell is inside, select that, then find I've opened a different terminal window and have to search through the windows separately. I don't care whether the doc is loaded in Firefox or Chromium so don't…

It's interesting. Microsoft agreed with this philosophy and fought tooth and nail against tabbing in browsers, opting instead that each browser tab be it's own window and accessible from the task bar. After all other browsers had switched, they were forced to introduce that in IE as well. The worst offender here is OSX. I still haven't figured out a good way to switch between multiple open windows of the same applica…

> The worst offender here is OSX. I still haven't figured out a good way to switch between multiple open windows of the same application, not even the file explorer (Finder).

I use HyperSwitch[0] on macOS to solve this issue. I use it to override the default Cmd+Tab behavior to cycle through windows on the current desktop. It's become one of the first things I install on a new machine.

[0]: https://bahoom.com/hyperswitch

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by greendude29 »

noir_lord wrote: post #137
andrepd wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use cinnamon, for that very reason. Just works, and works well for my use case, is very stable, and I've no wish to learn and configure another desktop paradigm.

Lack of Wayland support is the single thing I have wish it had. Gnome is so smooth on Nvidia in comparison but in every other way I prefer and still use cinnamon

Hmm, interesting.

I user Gnome on Nvidia, but use the open drivers since Nvidia was difficult to get to a stable state.

Did you just install the nvidia drivers from your OS's repo or get them directly from Nvidia?

NB: The free drivers are working splendidly by the way

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by pixel_fcker »

RussianCow wrote: post #171
transpostmeta wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting. Microsoft agreed with this philosophy and fought tooth and nail against tabbing in browsers, opting instead that each browser tab be it's own window and accessible from the task bar. After all other browsers had switched, they were forced to introduce that in IE as well. The worst offender here is OSX. I still haven't figured out a good way to switch between multiple open windows of the same applica…

> The worst offender here is OSX. I still haven't figured out a good way to switch between multiple open windows of the same application, not even the file explorer (Finder). I use HyperSwitch[0] on macOS to solve this issue. I use it to override the default Cmd+Tab behavior to cycle through windows on the current desktop. It's become one of the first things I install on a new machine. [0]: https://bahoom.com/hypersw…

Cmd-~

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by dheera »

andrepd wrote: post #117
generalk wrote: post #34

Trying this out as it's typed. For background: I really want to love tools like i3 or awesome, but I always go back to Gnome because it juts gets stuff done. I liked Gnome 2, I like 3. So: just like the site says. Top is the taskbar, which also has a left icon for the current tiling pattern (fullscreen, tiled vertically, etc). The left side panel starts at the top-left with the search button that does the Gnome activ…

I use cinnamon, for that very reason. Just works, and works well for my use case, is very stable, and I've no wish to learn and configure another desktop paradigm.

I've been using cinnamon as well but in 20.04 the new mac-ish taskbar that conflates the quick launch favorite apps and running apps in one widget turns me off. Starting to look for alternatives that aren't trying to copy Apple.

Installed apps and running instances of installed apps are different concepts, damnit, and I don't need a phone-like interface that fakes the idea that all apps are "always running" when they are not.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by shortformblog »

olejorgenb wrote: post #168
mikewhy wrote: post #104

I've always wanted to try a tiling window system, but they just don't seem to gel with how I work at all. Rarely, if ever, do I want a window to take up some common percentage of the screen. My editor is ~100 columns, which will change depending on the font / font size. My terminal is all over the place. My browser is multiple widths, because I need to test responsiveness, or what fits in my current tab does not fit…

Shameless plug: https://github.com/paperwm/PaperWM/ Gets rid of window overlap, but doesn't force all windows to be fully visible at the same time.

I'm a fan of PaperWM. It's great.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by mixmastamyk »

pimlottc wrote: post #113

The word "modern" is really overused in tech, and it doesn't really tell you all that much, just that "this is better because it's new, and new stuff is better than old stuff". Consider a more descriptive word, such as: - minimal - streamlined - sleek - simple - opinionated - spatial - comprehensive etc...

The CADT Model. Modern usually means they rethought the problem from scratch. Not a problem in itself, it's how progress is made.

However, in practice typically means that there are hundreds of edge cases not yet solved.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by noir_lord »

greendude29 wrote: post #172
noir_lord wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lack of Wayland support is the single thing I have wish it had. Gnome is so smooth on Nvidia in comparison but in every other way I prefer and still use cinnamon

Hmm, interesting. I user Gnome on Nvidia, but use the open drivers since Nvidia was difficult to get to a stable state. Did you just install the nvidia drivers from your OS's repo or get them directly from Nvidia? NB: The free drivers are working splendidly by the way

akmod-nvidia because it just works on a 2080.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by a1369209993 »

Angeo34 wrote: post #166
bobince wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very this. My mind is not app-centric. I want the shell where I'm looking at logs, the editor where I'm taking notes, the browser where I'm checking some doc. I don't care to think about which terminal application the shell is inside, select that, then find I've opened a different terminal window and have to search through the windows separately. I don't care whether the doc is loaded in Firefox or Chromium so don't…

So how do you solve this on other Desktops? Do you use the window previews or is there any other way? Because Windows and Mac both only show icons as well and Youd have to look at the names or previews of the Windows to know exactly which one you'd want. The grouping of applications can be disabled in gnome tweak

Each logical application (eg HN or ssh-to-example.com, not firefox or terminal) is in a separate window. The window list at the bottom of the screen shows a list of which windows (not physical applications) exist, and then I click on the window(-list-entry) button thingy for the (logical, not physical) application I want.

> Because Windows and Mac both only show icons as well

Windows (version Vista or worse, because this definitely wasn't a problem in XP) and Mac are defective by design then.

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