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Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by michaelmrose »

stormbrew wrote: post #153
michaelmrose wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still use tabs in apps despite using i3 for years. This firefox window has 13 tabs and would be much much crappier if I used 13 i3 tabs. I couldn't open new firefox windows in the background and opening others in the foreground within firefox. I would have to use i3's horizontal tabs instead of tree style tabs making it harder to read the titles. I couldn't switch tabs separately from switching windows. This would…

I didn't say they delivered perfectly either; i3's minimalistic nature isn't really well suited to a holistic approach to tabbing, either. I just said that it delivers on the concept at all . My frustration, fundamentally, is that I don't want every app that wants to use some kind of tabbing interface to be different. Use different shortcuts, different models. I would rather the WM/DE provide a holistic approach that…

Its implicitly the wrong way because firefox tabs aren't emacs tabs which aren't vs code tabs which aren't i3 tabs.

It's not merely that i3 tabs lack features its that it lacks and ought to lack deep integration with the application.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by Angeo34 »

yrro wrote: post #39

I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications. This is because I have a few applications (Firefox, Terminal) that are really not applications in and of themselves; the applications are really Outlook, JIRA, Confluence, Slack, OpenShift (logged in as cluster admin), OpenShift (logged in a…

There's a config for that in the tweak tool. It makes secondary monitor workspaces static. It's not exactly what you want but it gets kinda close for me. Wayland does away with the shitty X conventions so maybe there is hope once X finally dies.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by forbiddenvoid »

Installed and activated this morning. I'm already a fan. Easily revertible if I decide later that I hate it, but I like this workspace strategy much better than what's built-in with gnome.

I did find it a bit challenging to figure out where the settings were located (I don't use many GNOME extensions).

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by Elv13 »

5h wrote: post #32

I've lived in Awesome WM for years, this looks pretty good to me!

You can have both! https://github.com/material-shell/material-awesome

This was an earlier version of Material Shell based on AwesomeWM. At some point the author wanted more animations and custom menu handling. Those are 2 areas AwesomeWM doesn't really handle well.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by Angeo34 »

bobince wrote: post #84
yrro wrote: post #39

I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications. This is because I have a few applications (Firefox, Terminal) that are really not applications in and of themselves; the applications are really Outlook, JIRA, Confluence, Slack, OpenShift (logged in as cluster admin), OpenShift (logged in a…

Very this. My mind is not app-centric. I want the shell where I'm looking at logs, the editor where I'm taking notes, the browser where I'm checking some doc. I don't care to think about which terminal application the shell is inside, select that, then find I've opened a different terminal window and have to search through the windows separately. I don't care whether the doc is loaded in Firefox or Chromium so don't…

So how do you solve this on other Desktops? Do you use the window previews or is there any other way? Because Windows and Mac both only show icons as well and Youd have to look at the names or previews of the Windows to know exactly which one you'd want. The grouping of applications can be disabled in gnome tweak

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by Angeo34 »

INTPenis wrote: post #148
yrro wrote: post #39

I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications. This is because I have a few applications (Firefox, Terminal) that are really not applications in and of themselves; the applications are really Outlook, JIRA, Confluence, Slack, OpenShift (logged in as cluster admin), OpenShift (logged in a…

It rarely affects me. I'd say 99% of my time in Gnome is spent in either Firefox or terminal. Suddenly I'll need a program so I hit windows key, type in the start of the program name, and smash the Enter key. It's super simple. What's the problem?

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Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by olejorgenb »

mikewhy wrote: post #104

I've always wanted to try a tiling window system, but they just don't seem to gel with how I work at all. Rarely, if ever, do I want a window to take up some common percentage of the screen. My editor is ~100 columns, which will change depending on the font / font size. My terminal is all over the place. My browser is multiple widths, because I need to test responsiveness, or what fits in my current tab does not fit…

Shameless plug: https://github.com/paperwm/PaperWM/ Gets rid of window overlap, but doesn't force all windows to be fully visible at the same time.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by Angeo34 »

dyingkneepad wrote: post #146
callamdelaney wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps as a slight work around for gnome-3 users. I use workspaces across two monitors with the `window list` extension. To address your 'X window is not in Y workspace issue' you can assign a hotkey in gnome to move the currently active window up or down a workspace. So I have ctrl-alt-shift-up and ctrl-alt-shift-down bound to move windows up and down.

"Use this gnome 3 extension" is never the answer to work around gnome 3 problems: in my experience extensions either don't work or stop working at the first 'apt-get update' you do, or just consume like 40 gigs of memory if left running for a week. Extensions are the devs way of saying "we don't care about you, but we're going to pretend to care by allowing you to write software that we're going to break".

Yes it actually is the answer because that's the design paradigm of gnome. You get a basic shell that implements Red Hats vision and everything that you find missing/don't like is what extensions are for.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by forbiddenvoid »

Installed and activated this morning. I'm already a fan. Easily revertible if I decide later that I hate it, but I like this workspace strategy much better than what's built-in with gnome.

I did find it a bit challenging to figure out where the settings were located (I don't use many GNOME extensions), but once I figured out the settings are on the extensions.gnome.org page for the extension it was lot easier.

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