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AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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Why wouldn’t you buy a Ryzen because some epyc chips get locked?

I can't support AMD as a company as long as they are doing that on any of their products.

This seems more like a reason to avoid Dell than AMD.

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> I think they’ll probably continue beating Intel but the new nVidia cards look really good, and very good value. AMD have much lower power consumption, that was my main motivator for Ryzen and AMD Radeon as dev station.

Really? The general sense about AMD has almost always been the reverse, both as compared to Intel and Nvidia in those respective spaces.

5 years of process stagnation (Intel) will do that. Samsung's 8nm process used in Nvidia's cards is not as good as TSMC 7nm and that shows in their power consumption. Historically Nvidia's architectural efficiency has been much higher so it's not a given that RDNA2 will be more efficient even with the process advantage.

Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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>gaining market dominance, both in the ML/GPGPU space Is this really the case? Last I checked all the major Deep Learning toolsets ran off CUDA/cuDNN and there was nothing comparable for AMD hardware.

anyone have some experience on this? I'm in the market for an AMD laptop capable of running standard sci-kit/pytorch/etc but these seem optimized for NVIDIA cards. I'm curious about the outlook for these trending AMD cards.

I'm almost positive that if you're talking about AMD GPU's your going to be out of luck. For Deep Learning especially NVIDIA is really the only serious option.

Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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Chips are in the pipeline for many years, so products being released today are probably on the tail end of being impacted by AMD cutting GPU budgets to the bone to focus on Zen. I wouldn't expect miracles. Given AMD's market cap and financial success, I bet they're working on competitive designs now. There's no money in being an also ran in the space.

They would have been putting tons of development money into the graphics for the PS5 and the XBOX, and I think a lot of what went in to that is going to show up in their new GPUS. The timing of this stuff coming out right alongside the next generation consoles is confirmation of that, I think.

Agreed. Mark Cerny has said that some features in RDNA2 are a direct result of collaboration between Sony/AMD.

Intel is vulnerable. Now is the time for AMD to strike!

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> The information available around Big Navi (The GPUs expected to launch next month) put them at a +50% performance jump from the last generation and likely able to compete with the Nvidia flagship 3080 I guess it depends on what benchmark you care about but for AMD to compete with a 3080, which is 70-100% faster than a 2080, which is 10-20% faster than AMD's current flagship, they need to do a lot better than +50%.

Isn't the Nvidia flagship the RTX 3090? The overclockers uk website has the most expensive 3090 (Asus one) at ~1600gbp. On paper this should destroy everything else available atm.

In the kitchen keynote, their CEO positioned the 3080 as the flagship card and the 3090 as the Titan replacement(higher vram for things like large model runs)

Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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The information available around Big Navi (The GPUs expected to launch next month) put them at a +50% performance jump from the last generation and likely able to compete with the Nvidia flagship 3080: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-big_navi-rdna2-all-we-... I'd really urge anyone wanting to opine on these issues to watch the official analyst day videos and read through the releases AMD has put out so far in t…

> The information available around Big Navi (The GPUs expected to launch next month) put them at a +50% performance jump from the last generation and likely able to compete with the Nvidia flagship 3080 I guess it depends on what benchmark you care about but for AMD to compete with a 3080, which is 70-100% faster than a 2080, which is 10-20% faster than AMD's current flagship, they need to do a lot better than +50%.

Ah, apologies the linked stories and videos go into more detail. The “50 percent jump” is from Instructions per cycle alone with process node improvements and better cache architecture also contributing gains.

Final perf numbers are being speculated as being “close to 3080” in the chip forums, but I’d take that with a grain of salt since those are rumors alone.

Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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As a linux-only user (and gamer), nvidia is a plain no-go for me so i just hope that rdna2 is not entirely disappointing like RDNA1 was. For us Linux gamers a working VFIO on a consumer card would be a dream of course since nvidia is locking that to their workstations cards, maybe AMD just throws it in as a goody. Zen3 is propably gonna kick-butt, especially in any non-gaming task perhaps AMD will inch closer to Inte…

I will get a 3000 series. While I've never actually owned a AMD graphics card.... (25 year Linux guy) For a really long time AMD on Linux was absolute garbage, like lower end NVIDIA beating the this crap out of high end AMD. And I really appreciate the open source stuff, it seems to still be problematic. The other issue is, I use DaVinci Resolve which works a million times better with NVIDIA than AMD, even if it works at all.

Re: AMD Announces Ryzen “Zen 3” and Radeon “RDNA2” Presentations for October

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I can't support AMD as a company as long as they are doing that on any of their products.

This seems more like a reason to avoid Dell than AMD.

I've always avoided dell, AMD should be avoided for giving Dell a chip API that let dell do what they did.

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I've been on Linux (mostly Manjaro, some Arch) with a 3900X for over a year, and I haven't had problems.

FC31 and FC32 on 3900x for half a year and zero issues either. I suspect old kernels can be problematic. I had to upgrade past LTS to get my Ryzen 4700U laptop to even get video output.

I had 3900x on Ubuntu 18.10, 19.04 and 20.04 no problems whatsoever (Except with the nVidia GPU).
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