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Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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It's really good to see official support for Linux broadening.

Whether you love or hate Lenovo products/service etc (they are far from perfect) this decision will spur on competition and provide more choice and better support for all in the future.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally, certification is useless except for "compliance" and "get support for something". If you are running a supported combination of hardware and software, the hardware vendor can't officially close your case just because "you are running unsupported software and we are sure your OpenBSD damaged your mouse" or similar BS. However, as long as there is a hardware problem you are able to clearly identify, support…

I've only used Apple laptops for the past 15 years. So when I buy a Laptop for OS Z, I actually expect Z to work. Maybe its my fault for having unreasonable expectations. No idea what the story is on Windows.

Even with macs running OSX there were OS and driver problems with overheating, downclocking, batteries, keyboard missing keypresses, keyboard going missing on reboot, touchbar disfunction and problems with the touchpad like broken palm rejection. And thats just stuff from a few weeks of reading HN comments...

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga that claims to be certified by both Lenovo and Canonical for Ubuntu. Finger print sensor doesn't work, the fans are super loud all the time, audio doesn't work (requires a newer Linux kernel than the one shipped in the latest Ubuntu), EFI problems, sleep, hibernate, fast-boot, restore from hibernate problems, battery life on Linux is horrible... So at least the certification for Ubuntu i…

> If you want to buy a Linux laptop, avoid Lenovo like the plague. They have absolutely zero quality assurance for Linux. I had the exact opposite experience. Perhaps it's a Unbuntu thing, hard to know, I use Fedora, or perhaps it's the Yoga... In 2004 I got a T42, installed Fedora on it, it just worked. In 2013 I got a T440p, installed Fedora, just worked. That Laptop is still in use, btw. This year I got a X1 Extre…

I'm with you. I have a 2017 X1 Carbon, and I've had zero issues with Ubuntu. The only thing I had to do was update a few config settings to properly sleep, and I run kde desktop so I don't have to fiddle with scaling on laptop monitor vs. my external displays. It's been an excellent laptop.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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When looking at Linux support I start with the Linux Vendor Firmware Service [1]. If the model I’m looking at isn’t supported then it’s off my list. You’ll notice that not all Thinkpads are supported [2]. The E, L and Yoga series are not supported but the T, P and X series are. [1] https://fwupd.org/ [2] https://fwupd.org/lvfs/search?&value=thinkpad

Some Thinkpads that are not supported provide bootable isos that you can use to update your bios. It is my understanding that it also updates the firmware (but it doesn't explicitly say). Here is an E model that has a bootable iso: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netb...

Yes, many vendors for many models do the same. Even if they don’t you could install it via Windows.

“Support” is more than just the ability to install an update. It’s to do with whether an issue affecting Linux is being addressed. In the case of the E and L series Thinkpads there are many shared components with the T series so your chances are much better.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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now the OS's need to improve. thinkpad's have had stellar support for linux. own a t490 and have run several distros from manjaro, redhat etc now on ubuntu 20.04. the distros need to work on hdpi support, consolidate desktop environments. kde is nice for some things n gnome is too. like for me on kde, the brightness setting was wonky. gnome no support for media controls. then finally linux can takover. I don't know the story about wayland - but it seems most apps don't support it

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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I have a Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga that claims to be certified by both Lenovo and Canonical for Ubuntu. Finger print sensor doesn't work, the fans are super loud all the time, audio doesn't work (requires a newer Linux kernel than the one shipped in the latest Ubuntu), EFI problems, sleep, hibernate, fast-boot, restore from hibernate problems, battery life on Linux is horrible... So at least the certification for Ubuntu i…

I don't think an anecdotal experience with the Yoga line is compatible with the claim that "if you want to buy a Linux laptop, avoid Lenovo like the plague."

I've had great experiences with my Thinkpads (t410s and t530) running Linux. Granted, I was just running Ubuntu, but I never had an issue. I will note that I disabled the fingerprint sensor, camera, and microphone at the BIOS level so didn't have experience dealing with those drivers. I expect most others will have a fine experience with the non-touchscreen Thinkpads, and probably some of the newer models as well.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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What’s dual (or multiple) monitor Support like with Linux these days? Thinking of getting the dell xps developer edition because it seems to be the one that offers the best compatibility but I would personally prefer a Lenovo.

Multiple monitors are not a problem, but mixed DPI is. It supposedly works fine in wayland, but I tried and failed to switch over to wayland. In X apps always appear the wrong size on one display or the other.

Re: Lenovo to Certify ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation Portfolio for Linux

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What’s dual (or multiple) monitor Support like with Linux these days? Thinking of getting the dell xps developer edition because it seems to be the one that offers the best compatibility but I would personally prefer a Lenovo.

Multiple monitors are not a problem, but mixed DPI is. It supposedly works fine in wayland, but I tried and failed to switch over to wayland. In X apps always appear the wrong size on one display or the other.

Oh boy! Well I'll just stay in the expensive "Mac-land"...
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