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I was hoping for something more specific i.e. concrete actions
Probably controversial views on the internet, ie. nothing actually bad.
>Nevertheless, we didn’t expect a threatening reaction followed by several emails, Twitter DMs, persistent phone calls and Whatsapp messages. She even texted my girlfriend, one of the organizers of the conference, whose telephone number is not public and wasn’t given to her at any moment. At the same time, she started contacting other speakers of the conference. At that point you know you made the right choice... the…
Right? If you're asked not to speak at a conference, why would you go on to consistently prove it was the right decision to remove you?
As another person mentioned, DerbyCon got tired of dealing with it (https://www.derbycon.com/blog/derbycon-9-0-every-beginning-h...). And then had to respond to a bullshit storm related to their integrity a month later (https://www.derbycon.com/blog/derbycon-clarifications-inclus...).
I know about this case. I can say the following: Most of the facts stated on this post are lies, or lies by omissions. This guy has an harassment lawsuit against him and hes trying to protect himself. He harassed the girl in front of many witnesses in another conference IN WHICH HE WAS NOT INVITED AND THE GIRL WAS A SPEAKER, and was promptly removed from said conference because of that. She filed a police report agai…
Sounds like the same reason the Derbycon organizers aren't doing it again: https://www.derbycon.com/blog/derbycon-9-0-every-beginning-h...
> To put it in perspective, we had to deal with an individual that was verbally and mentally abusive to a number of our volunteer staff and security to the point where they were in tears. It sounds like the proper response to this is to tell the individual to "fuck off and never come back", but looks like popularity mattered too much to the Derbycon organizers: > Admittedly, we had no idea how to handle this person,…
Would some disconnected third party be able to kindly doxx this douchebag couple for the benefit of everyone else? Thanks.
Please do not do doxx, nor take up pitchforks -- not in this case, nor in any other. We can hear someone's report of a terrible experience, and think about the problem, and provide support to that person. However, judgment and sentencing of some other person has very different standards of proof and process.
If this other party is known to many unrelated people over numerous past events for that pattern of behavior, it seems like fair game to me. People out there already know; it's just "connecting the doxx" for the rest.
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Right? If you're asked not to speak at a conference, why would you go on to consistently prove it was the right decision to remove you?
She was not asked. She was invited, and then kicked out of buzzconf (said conference), and the motives are not clear. Then he said there was some kind of harassment of which we don't have any proof except what he say. Then the guy justifies the ban saying it is because of commercial reasons, but before that he said it was because of some mysterious people were not comfortable WITH THE BOYFRIEND (are we in china were…
Why? Part of diversity means being able to cooperate with people who have different viewpoints and ideologies.
Further reading about this person's aggressive and retaliatory behavior implies that this person has issues that should keep her out of conferences. But, I still think it's important to understand why attendees ask that she be removed.
The reaction of the organizer is very sad. Civilization is based on the peaceful collaboration of people who may hate each other. Disallowing such collaboration is, by definition, uncivilized. Being able to deal with people that make you very uncomfortable without creating a fuss is a fundamental requirement of adulthood. Regardless of the callous reaction of the un-invited person, it was not OK to un-invite them, at…
> Just like the harm you did by cancelling invitations on behalf of a hypothetical discomfort of other people. What she accused him of doing was entirely false while uninviting her was based on something entirely true. You are comparing harm caused by false accusation to one caused by actual grievance.
This is certainly true, looking at the unfolding of the events. Yet, this information is missing in the text, where it seems that the organizers actions were guided solely by the "discomfort" manifested by other participants, that pressured them to reject another invitee. This sounds pretty much "giving in to undue pressure".
I was with the author until the diversity and equity part. Why does everything have to boil down to skin color and gender? I don't see why you need to offer this for a tech conference. It should be about ability and topics. Edit: I already regret making this post.
A responder to this wrote "Sometimes fairness requires stepping in and lending a helping hand to right an imbalance.", which is definitely the answer that lots of people would give. Obviously this is an ideological stance, and it sounds like you probably disagree with it. But I think it's also pretty obvious, even before asking, that the only answer is going to be an ideological stance. It's one person or group's per…
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Sure, go for it. But I know a male nurse and he's never experienced anything remotely like what a lot of women I know in tech experience so it's not the equal thought you might think it is.
What did doctors and lawyers do starting back in the 80s? We should do whatever they did, since it seems to have worked.
Of course music is easy to do blind this way. It isn't clear how you judge technical people in a fair way in a 5 minute audition. (see plenty of previous discussions here on white board coding)
Music also has high numbers of minorities going into it in the first place. The number of females who start a technical degree program is very low, and this is reflected in the graduations numbers (I understand females are more likely to drop out of the program as well, which needs to be addressed)
Failing that, what lawyers have done is a possible answer.