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KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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I find it extremely scary to make business with Google. Their robot would get your account banned, all cloud, play and every other thing with it. Every hour it is banned would be lost money and lost customers. This is not my problem, really. It is Google's public image as I seen it soulless support for last 10 years, and stories like this pop up time to time. Too sad they pretty much locked in Android app market, and…

Don't build mobile apps. Build web apps.

I believe that you will have a harder time collecting the user's contact list and GPS data with a web app, not to mention showing advertising on the user's lock screen.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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A selection of F-Droid apps: - AFWall+ (firewall, useful to block traffic to limit mobile data usage when I still need to enable it) - Amaze (File Manager) - AndIodine (Iodine client, use internet through wifi guarded by captive portals that still let DNS queries pass) - Barcode Scanner (scan QR and bar codes, share things through QR codes) - Clementine Remote (control the Clementine music player) - Draw (to write sc…

If we're making an F-Droid list and checking it twice: - FreeOTP+ for 2FA - Wireguard for use with Mullvad VPN - AnkiDroid flashcards - AntennaPod for podcasts - Telegram for messaging - Twidere twitter client Plus a few already noted above.

Anki is amazing, highly recommended. I use it to study everything from human languages to programming languages.

If it were not for Ankidroid, I would be satisfied with a dumb phone.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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It also doesn't come preinstalled on any devices I'm aware of, which adds a significant amount of friction. Even once you've installed it, it can't auto-update apps.

So? Netflix didn't come preinstalled on my phone, but I still use it. Installing F-Droid is easy, and installing and managing apps through it is also easy. I prefer it when I can find a suitable app.

> Installing F-Droid is easy

but nevertheless harder than installing Netflix

> installing and managing apps through it is also easy

but updates are not automatic (unless you root)

I don't dispute that F-Droid is not terribly difficult to use, but the original statement that "It's easier to use than the Play Store" is obviously false as soon as you take into account the mechanics of getting it installed.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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Maybe the problem is the tight coupling. An app store is really many things. It's client software for installing apps, it's a service for verifying apps, it's a hosting service for apps, it's a payment processor. If you want to replace any piece of it you currently have to replace the whole thing, and do so all at once. Even if you create a good alternative app store, it has few apps in it, which matters if it's a se…

The thing you're ignoring is developer reputation. Google (or any app-store runner) doesn't want to allow you to use parts of their service—for which they could be held liable if those services take your money and give you nothing in return, or give you a virus—unless you're also using their identity system and thus their developer-reputation system. And if you are using Google's identity system—in what way are you n…

> Google (or any app-store runner) doesn't want to allow you to use parts of their service—for which they could be held liable if those services take your money and give you nothing in return, or give you a virus—unless you're also using their identity system and thus their developer-reputation system.

Amazon doesn't require you to use their payment system with your customers to host your app on AWS. Paypal doesn't require you to host your apps with them to use their payment system. Mozilla doesn't try to stop you from using Firefox, or the Firefox-based Tor browser, to visit arbitrary "dark web" sites, and Debian doesn't try to stop you from adding arbitrary third party repositories to apt. Let's Encrypt doesn't even require you to use their own software to verify your site. This concept of "you can't just sell someone a screw driver because what if they kill someone and you were liable" has no basis.

Google could refuse your business for an individual component if you tried to use that component from them, but then you could just get that component from someone else. It would still be an advantage to be able to use one service for hosting and another for payments, even if zero of those services are Google.

And the problem with Google Play is the weak competition. If it was easier to use something else then they would lose more business from making poor refusal decisions (harming their reputation), by charging a high percentage, etc. Then they would either have to improve or lose their status as the dominant player. Reduced barriers, more competition.

Re: KDE Connect removed from Google Play store for violating new policy on SMS

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GCP will no longer just shut down your projects without a human approval.

But they will still keep your credit card number forever if you ever give it to them. Once it's been added, it can't be removed. They claim it's for auditing purposes, but those "auditing purposes" shouldn't require keeping it attached to the account as an active payment method (which is what they enforce).

Yeah they could totally keep it for no more than 2 or 3 months and 99.999% of any problems with "auditing" would also be handled.
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