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Re: iPad Pro

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Post by throwaway413 »

FreakyT wrote: post #23
rtkwe wrote: post #11

Huh looks like most of the predictions I'd heard came true: USB-C and no home button. Wonder if they're going to do the same shift on the rest of the lines? I'm a little surprised that the iPhone Xs and Xr weren't switched over to USB-c if this is planned for the whole line. Charging the pencil attached to the side is pretty neat the old solution was very... odd and seemed pretty dangerous (having such a long lever a…

I also was really hoping the new iPhones would finally make the switch to USB-C; it's ridiculous for them to continue putting Lightning ports on anything at this point, considering how they've gone all-in on USB-C on their Macbooks (and now iPad Pros). Hopefully next year's models will finally make the switch!

This, exactly this. Completely goes against their marketing pitch that X-family devices are "future-proof". They just contradicted that entire line of thought by adding USB-C to iPads. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they did! But pissed that my XS is still using Lightning.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by Exuma »

reacharavindh wrote: post #139

Do you all use iPad for serious work? Curious what apps you use? Other than Apple Notes(with Apple Pencil), and watching NetFlix, I dont make good use of it. I'd love to get some recommendation for useful apps to try...

It's great in the creative industry (like painting) where you need to look at reference photos. I leave it on my desk to look at. Anything cheaper would do I suppose, but I prefer to go all out :p

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by maxxxxx »

moolcool wrote: post #167
aikah wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd argue while the UX is questionable (panning the page right to left while the user scroll down), the website loads pretty fast, which is a good thing, and the scrolling is smooth. The page also weights less than 14 MB. Here is an example of horrible UX plus horrible loading time plus janky scrolling brought you by Google. 60 seconds after the page was open the content of the top of the page was still not done load…

>less than 14 MB It's kind of crazy to me that even that's considered low

Agree. And that people feel the need to say "At least it works without Javascript". Our standards have become really low. I would argue that for product sites like this we have massively regressed over the last 10-15 years. Sites that used be easy to read and find information have become a nightmare of one useful paragraph per page.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by threatofrain »

dpark wrote: post #164
calgoo wrote: post #123

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Am I the only one who actually like to have an edge on my devices so they dont break by looking at them? At least if there is a metal edge it can take some of the force and you have a chance of not breaking the screen. I dont understand why metal is bad and glass is somehow good? Also, I need to grab my ipad, move it around, spin it, grab it with the other hand etc. I see the edges / bezel's as very useful in these c…

"Edge to edge glass" doesn't mean there's literally no physical edge banding around the screen. The iPhone X models with their "all-screen design" still have a stainless steel edge band. The iPad pro clearly still has a metal edge. The device you seem to be imagining where the glass runs all the way to the edge with no edge banding doesn't exist, and would be an ugly and unpleasant device if it did, as the edges woul…

Don’t some high end Android or Samsung models have edge to edge phone displays?

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by kageneko »

m_mueller wrote: post #57

One thing I was missing from the presentation: Can it finally connect both a keyboard and a pencil, i.e. does it have magnets on both sides?

I seem to recall seeing a 2 second thing where they had a pencil and keyboard attached at the same time. And I'm pretty sure they mentioned 192 magnets built into the edges of the Pro.

I'm hoping this leads to a future where 3rd party accessories snap on and charge.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by neolefty »

reacharavindh wrote: post #139

Do you all use iPad for serious work? Curious what apps you use? Other than Apple Notes(with Apple Pencil), and watching NetFlix, I dont make good use of it. I'd love to get some recommendation for useful apps to try...

Two of my children do most of their schoolwork on iPads now. They're 8th grade & freshman in college — one we got for drawing (2017 iPad Pro) and the other to view college textbooks (2018 basic iPad), and both quickly became primary devices because they're good enough for web and GSuite — and we got keyboard cases & Apple Pencil for each.

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Post by ValentineC »

throwaway413 wrote: post #168
wishinghand wrote: post #62

Finally a mobile device that uses USB-C to charge. I'm glad they fixed the awful UX on charging the pencil. Also stoked there's no notch in the screen, but sad that there's rounded corners. Still no ability to let people make apps for the iPad on the iPad, which I think is truly disappointing. *edit: I just realized it doesn't have a headphone jack and does have a camera bump. Booooooo

I just don't understand why they would release all-new phones literally 2 months ago with Lightning ports, but then release iPads with USB-C. Makes no sense, especially with how they market the X-family as "future-proof". Clearly they aren't. They should have gone with USB-C all around.

It's likely that Lightning connectors will be used for phones and other devices where "slimness" is important, since the Lightning connector is thinner.

USB-C will likely be a thing on "pro" devices where users are expected to create more than consume, and because USB-C can interface with more hardware.

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Post by badestrand »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #101
tyingq wrote: post #41

"The new Liquid Retina display goes from edge to edge" I've never owned an iPad, perhaps I'm missing something here. How does the above statement reconcile with the pictures I see on the page where there's clearly a black bezel? Do they just mean there's not an area at the bottom with a physical button?

It's like saying 'lightning fast', when in reality it could be faster or slower than lightning, it's a metaphor that does well in marketing and doesn't leave you open to legal challenges as much as a more technical reference (e.g. 'zero bezels) would, but gets the point across that bezels are thinner than usual.

> it's a metaphor

No, "from edge to edge" and "all-screen design" are not metaphors but as concrete as it gets, and obviously wrong. This iPad may be great but these marketing texts are just straight lies.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by jaegerpicker »

unrealhoang wrote: post #166
minimaxir wrote: post #3

Very impressive demos, but unfortunately the number of apps that can make full use of the increased power is still limited. A common complaint I saw during the presentation was the emphasis of the A12X for gaming, but Apple is still very bad at incentivizing developers to make games with premium experiences and prices (to say nothing of the lack of an official gaming controller!) Also, the new Apple Pencil will only…

Yes, my wildest dream is that they will release XCode with developer's tools (i.e. compilers), my laptop will be gone that exact second.

ditto if I could use Xcode on the iPad Pro I'd almost never use my MacBook Pro. That may be why it hasn't happed yet as many of us probably feel that way.

Re: iPad Pro

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Post by brenschluss »

OskarS wrote: post #94
jaegerpicker wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I'm critical of the presenters that Apple chooses often but I thought that comment made sense in the context, especially coming from someone that was likely more an Artist than a technologist.

Maybe I'm being harsh, but I really don't think that it should be impressive that, on a device of this power, you can zoom in and out of a photoshop file without the UI lagging. Note, btw, that the pixels aren't updating in real time, it takes a little bit for the higher resolution to pop in when she zooms in (unless they're recently in cache). She's literally talking about not having the UI lag. This shouldn't be an…

Yeah, if you’ve never pushed Photoshop and think it’s just a photo editing software then it’s understandable that you’d feel this way.
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