Announcing Dart 2 Stable and the Dart Web Platform

Post by kbd » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 9:59 PM UTC

andrewbinstock wrote: post #157

munificent wrote: post #139

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I could be wrong, but I don't believe the existence of Go was much of a problem. Go and Dart are very different languages aimed for very different use cases. If anything, I think Go helped us because we could point to it as a successful language that Google hasn't cancelled. > not that far from Java This is something that hurt us, I think. You can write Dart code that looks a lot like Java, and many of our early publ…

> I could be wrong, but I don't believe the existence of Go was much of a problem. It wasn't so much Go per se, but the fact that Google was pushing two new languages at the same time. It created the perception, for me at least, that Google was pushing out new languages to see which ones stuck and kill those that didn't. Google had/has the reputation for killing off projects that it lost interest in. And I wasn't wil…

Post by laxd » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 10:11 PM UTC

nailer wrote: post #155

munificent wrote: post #139

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I could be wrong, but I don't believe the existence of Go was much of a problem. Go and Dart are very different languages aimed for very different use cases. If anything, I think Go helped us because we could point to it as a successful language that Google hasn't cancelled. > not that far from Java This is something that hurt us, I think. You can write Dart code that looks a lot like Java, and many of our early publ…

I removed everything that seems redundant. Less syntax means less to break, and less for new programmers (who are 10x the volume of existing programmers) to learn: import 'package:hauberk/src/engine.dart' import 'package:hauberk/src/content.dart' content = createContent() save = content.createHero("blah") while (true) watch = Stopwatch() watch.start() # Generate a dungeon at each level. count = 0 for (i = 1; i = -1)…

Post by munificent » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 10:19 PM UTC

leshow wrote: post #126

I'm really not a fan of Dart's type system. It feels ancient to me. From what I can tell, there's no sum types, I don't see any way to bound generics based on interface/typeclasses/traits or some other equivalent concept on the docs, it has no non-nullable types. Am I wrong? Why would I want to use a type system that lacks expressiveness?

    class Foo {
      T thing;
      method() { thing.methodOnBar(); }
    }

Post by nailer » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 10:23 PM UTC

laxd wrote: post #174

nailer wrote: post #155

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I removed everything that seems redundant. Less syntax means less to break, and less for new programmers (who are 10x the volume of existing programmers) to learn: import 'package:hauberk/src/engine.dart' import 'package:hauberk/src/content.dart' content = createContent() save = content.createHero("blah") while (true) watch = Stopwatch() watch.start() # Generate a dungeon at each level. count = 0 for (i = 1; i = -1)…

Separating variable declaration and reassignment at a glance makes code more clear. Indenting loop bodys makes code more clear, and the curly braces won't suddenly break. Keeping lines short makes it nicer to work with in various editor setups.

Post by bseidensticker » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 10:25 PM UTC

jorblumesea wrote: post #16

Flutter is going to make/break Dart. If flutter takes off, Dart is saved. Otherwise, looks bleak.