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Announcing Dart 2 Stable and the Dart Web Platform

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Re: Announcing Dart 2 Stable and the Dart Web Platform

#32
> The other is an interesting quality-of-life change for Flutter developers, which allows creating an instance of a class without the “new” keyword. The goal of this change is to make Flutter code more readable, less clunky, and easier to type

Wait, not typing new accomplishes all those amazing things? Here i thought it was just three letters, which showed intent - hence easier to grok the surrounding code

Re: Announcing Dart 2 Stable and the Dart Web Platform

#34

How's dart as a server ?

I believe that Google is now pushing Dart only for mobile development, and that the server-side Dart is dead on the vine. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got.

Server side is not dead, just dont expect them to make a Ruby on Rails kind of framework.

Re: Announcing Dart 2 Stable and the Dart Web Platform

#36
Reading the few comments here is really interesting.

Every-time there is a discussion about Dart , people talk about Flutter... they very rarely talk about Dart on the Server or on the Web...

A while ago I considered using Dart to build a Web API. I was shocked by the non-existent ecosystem around this language.

The Redis package has been un-maintained for almost three years now, and Angular Dart is always a few version behind the TypeScript version and doesn't support SSR.

I was also very surprised that Google during dart conf never commented on using Dart on the server but instead always insisted on using it for their clients (Web and Mobile). I think I'm not lying by saying that a huge part of Google runs on JVM , Go or Python but definitely not on Dart VM.

For me Dart is the language that developer needed , but never wanted to use. It failed miserably when it was introduced few years ago, since then JavaScript took off and has become almost a universal language.

This is very frustrating seeing how much the language is efficient and well structured but it the same times doesn't mean much now seeing how mature JavaScript is becoming.

For me Dart took long to become what is it now , and today the only thing that would make people using this language is really Flutter.

Beside that , I'm afraid they are very little reason to use this language.

[0]https://github.com/dartist/redis_client/tree/master

Re: Announcing Dart 2 Stable and the Dart Web Platform

#38

I mostly spend my days writing Go (previously Python) and when I tried Dart I really liked it. Could basically start coding and be productive without even looking at language documentation (VSCode has a nice Dart plugin which tells you what to do and what not to do). In my case, I was trying out Dart because of a Flutter (probably majority of people are now looking at Dart because of Flutter) and I found it really fa…

How does your experience with Dart compare to TypeScript in VS Code? I haven’t tried Dart yet but my TS experience sounds similar to what you described.
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