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I've never heard of a company giving advanced notice of layoffs. Its always just an email the morning of.
Usually you will get at least a 4 week notice in Germany and this increases to up to 7 months when you worked for more than 20 years for the company. That you get fired effective immediately usually only happen if you really fucked something up.
I think an interesting path for stackoverflow would be to provide live channels for technology support and conversation. A bit like public slacks. I remember a few technologies that officially said something like "support is provided through custom stackoverflow tags", but it didn't bring more functionalities. A company trying to launch its new technology (i can imagine asp.net core for example) could have an associa…
Why would you fire people on such a short notice? No need to hand over things? No interest in providing at least some time to look for a new job? EDIT: To clarify that a bit, I am interested in what the upsides are except for possibly saving some money. An orderly shutdown usually seems preferable to me over quickly killing the process, for both sides.
Depends on country too. In EU our work laws regulate how your employee may be laid off. My country (poland) says that employee has to be notified about termination: - week ahead if he or she was employed for less than month - month ahead if he or she was employed for less than three years - three months ahead if he or she was employed for more than three years This goes both ways however, as employee has to notify hi…
Most worker rights, in the end, become a matter of how much money they'll pay you to leave if they want you to leave.
Yes, one could--theoretically--fight back and not accept the money, but that only means you'd be a pariah in the company. What's the point of staying if the company wants you to leave and offers you a package? Take the money and get a new job in a couple weeks...
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"Layoff" and "firing" are separate concepts here. The central example of a true layoff is a trade work shortage: the layoff happens with very little notice, because it reflects the volatile nature of the demand for the trade. If there's suddenly, unexpectedly nothing for anyone to do, then there's suddenly, unexpectedly no benefit in paying anyone to come in for the day to do it. Does that kind of situation still con…
As far as I know the barriers are even higher for layoffs. You can not, for example, arbitrarily pick which workers to layoff but have to minimize the social impact when you have to choose between several employees doing the same work, for example take age, spousal support, and things like that into consideration. But I am totally not an expert and I am sure it is a vastly more complex topic than I can imagine.
If there are ten employees you need to cut, shouldn't they be cut based on either their recent performance, or a completely random method?
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It's not "forced labour", it's just a contractual term. You certainly _can_ quit on zero notice but you've breached contract and it will cost you. If you look closely at US startups you'll usually find the founders and senior staff are on "notice required" contracts of several months.
If you make the breach cost infinitely high, how is that not a modern form of slavery?
Modern slavery is things like confiscating the passports of your immigrant workers so they can't escape.
Good. In the past year they have become very preachy about exact which political opinions the tech community is allowed to have, and how they are to express them. My limit was the "Time to take a stand incident" when Joel effectively dictated that the developer community of StackOverflow must agree with the statement. > Carving up the world into ... nations ... is both morally repugnant and frankly stupid The follow…
I'm happy that I was too busy at the time doing an handover to see that. Seeing the CEO get a pass on all the "Be-Nice" rules and use his site as a political platform...
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I’m quite surprised to hear one must give their employer notice. Doesn’t Poland or the EU have laws against forced labor? In the US, for example, all employment by private corporations is “at will.” Anyone can quit at a moments notice, for any or no reason at all. For the sake of one’s colleagues and reputation it is widely considered good practice to give no less than 2 weeks notice, though this is merely custom.
It's not "forced labour", it's just a contractual term. You certainly _can_ quit on zero notice but you've breached contract and it will cost you. If you look closely at US startups you'll usually find the founders and senior staff are on "notice required" contracts of several months.
Yes, but at least California courts have found these "garden leave" provisions in contracts are not enforceable. [1]
As for the rest of the United States, I'm not sure, but it seems like somewhat unsettled law as such notice requirements are quite rare in the US.
1. " And it turns out that companies also cannot require their employees to provide any specific length of notice, even when they offer to compensate them at 100% of their salary and benefits for the duration of the notice period. California courts have found these mandatory provisions to be an unenforceable restraint, as well." https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/understanding-californi...
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StackOverflow ads are not the same as typical ads that technical users tend to block - they are typically just simple text links to job offers. Additionally, SO has fantastic analytics on logged in users which would drive the cost per impression up - if you've ever filled out their developer survey, you've given them everything they need to sell employers very expensive targeted ads directed at you.
I had to turn my ad blocker off to even see the ad you're referring to. Do you know of programmers who don't run ad blockers?
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Do you have any numbers or references on that claim?
So, I don't have a formal study saying that techies are the most likely to ad-block/least likely to click ads. What we know: - Ad-blocker users skew young and wealthy.[1] The developer community as a whole also skews young and wealthy. - If you are aware of the existence of ad-blocking technology, you probably use it.[2] - Via comparison with other sites, you can also make some extrapolations. Take IGN - not a perfec…
Your first link messes up though. Seems to be the correct link, but got cut off somehow. In case you don't or can't correct it anymore, it's: https://marketingland.com/ad-blocker-usage-highest-among-key...
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Do you have any numbers or references on that claim?
So, I don't have a formal study saying that techies are the most likely to ad-block/least likely to click ads. What we know: - Ad-blocker users skew young and wealthy.[1] The developer community as a whole also skews young and wealthy. - If you are aware of the existence of ad-blocking technology, you probably use it.[2] - Via comparison with other sites, you can also make some extrapolations. Take IGN - not a perfec…