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Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by chiph »

valuearb wrote: post #121
wavefunction wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You fly into Phoenix and the rampant waste and misuse of water is obvious. All those lawns and pools sitting idly by while Arizona (and California) drink far too deeply from the Colorado and other rivers.

Arizona has always managed its water supply far better than California. And a flyover is misleading, most houses have natural yards and the lawns are all special summer grass adapted to the heat.

Don't forget the people who have painted their dirt/rocks green. From the air, it'd look like grass. (from the street - not so much)

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by faragon »

Oletros wrote: post #161
faragon wrote: post #157

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> At least, before writing your usual biased diatribe you should read the original link in that shitty article. That was just my opinion. > In no place is mentiioned Spain and the article talks about rationalizing the shops schedule. My point was because the only sector that matches the schedule the article was speaking about was the shops, as the three hours pause is very rare except for the shops and some services…

> That's separatist propaganda: > That's separatist propaganda: That was not an opinion, it was just a plain lie. > If someone puts a region as example of something, you can expect other put examples of the opposite, specially if you live there. Nobody has put anything as example. But as I said, don't let pass an oportunity to fight your imaginary enemies. > I'm in favor of social democracy ("center"). And that's com…

The lie is in the article: it is false that the three hours pause is generalized, but a exception, except for shops. Then, in my opinion, the purpose of that lie is separatist propaganda, as I exposed in my first comment.

I don't want to continue the discussion with you, as this forum is not an appropriate place for political/nationalist flamewars. You have your opinion, I have mine. Free speech means to live with people you don't agree with. Kind regards.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by CydeWeys »

anigbrowl wrote: post #131
davidw wrote: post #78

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Small shops manage to operate in, say, Arizona during those hours. That said, I think Spain's hours are a more natural adaptation to the climate than Arizona's.

Yes, but at the cost of running crazy air conditioning. The only time I visited Phoenix I arrived near lunchtime and was baffled to be wandering around a seemingly modern city where the streets were entirely free of people. I felt like it I was in the opening scene of a zombie movie or something. Personally speaking I've never seen much value in living by the clock if it puts you in conflict with the seasons. The not…

Because of the way thermodynamics works, it's much more energy efficient to simply move heat around (air conditioning) than it is to create it from scratch (heating). It costs several times the annual energy to live in Maine than it does to live in Phoenix, for example. We could save a substantial amount on our overall national residential energy budget by moving people from cold areas of the country to Phoenix.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by mipapage »

logronoide wrote: post #117

Spaniard here; this is absolutely not true. 3 hour lunch breaks it's a myth. May be shops in small towns and villages. One hour break for lunch is the norm. May be two, but it's not very common. There is an exception here: in summertime, a lot of companies reduce the working hours from 8 to 7 hours. They start at 8am and leave at 3pm. The sum of these hours must be distributed along the rest of the days of the year.…

I don't know, I live in Alicante (15 years now) and know many working folks and professionals who take 2-5 off, though in the summer they will go until 3 and call it a day.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by tesseract »

CydeWeys wrote: post #173
anigbrowl wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but at the cost of running crazy air conditioning. The only time I visited Phoenix I arrived near lunchtime and was baffled to be wandering around a seemingly modern city where the streets were entirely free of people. I felt like it I was in the opening scene of a zombie movie or something. Personally speaking I've never seen much value in living by the clock if it puts you in conflict with the seasons. The not…

Because of the way thermodynamics works, it's much more energy efficient to simply move heat around (air conditioning) than it is to create it from scratch (heating). It costs several times the annual energy to live in Maine than it does to live in Phoenix, for example. We could save a substantial amount on our overall national residential energy budget by moving people from cold areas of the country to Phoenix.

You can heat by moving energy around, too (heat pumps). Indoor/outdoor temperature differentials are admittedly greater in cold-climate winter than hot-climate summer, but on the other hand natural solar heating (greenhouse effect due to windows) is working for you in the winter but against you in the summer.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by clock_tower »

"Lunch break" sounds like it's paid or semi-paid; it seems a bit deceptive here. It sounds from the article like the Spanish are putting in 8-hour days, but interrupting them in the afternoon, so that instead of working 9 to 6 they work 9 to 8 or 9 to 9. Thus the streets busy until midnight, for example; this is a case of different scheduling, not lazy southerners.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by fs111 »

mcjiggerlog wrote: post #11

Literally nobody here takes 3 hour lunch breaks. A lot of offices have 2 hours, yeah, but this is becoming less and less common regardless. Small shops do close for 3 hours in the middle of the day, but they are open till about 9pm which is a lot more useful than being open in the middle of the day. It also should be noted that there are actually 5 meals in a spaniard's day. There's a mid-morning and late-afternoon s…

> There's a mid-morning [...] snack

so you are basically hobbits?

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by geezerjay »

treehau5 wrote: post #51
untog wrote: post #25

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> Greeks are a prime example -- despite the intense crisis and austerity measures, the country still values its lunch and coffee breaks Right, and their economy is in free fall. I'm not saying you can't do it, but that cost to doing it is ever-increasing.

Actually the free fall has seemed to have slowed, and bottomed out. It's just a different cultural value -- not every culture values the green dollar as much as America or the UK or likewise. Is it the best for your GDP? Probably not, but it's honorable. "Cash is King" is not something you hear many Greeks say about one another

> It's just a different cultural value -- not every culture values the green dollar as much as America or the UK or likewise.

Past Greek governments sure looked like they loved other people's cash a lot for having borrowed so much of it.

It's funny how that distaste for money and accompanying virtue signaling only managed to manifest itself once it was time to pay back all the borrowed cash.

Re: Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break

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Post by bitJericho »

hanoz wrote: post #155
pc86 wrote: post #84

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I can assure you that working 4 hours, taking 3 off, then working 4 again, is most definitely a break.

Is working 8 hours, taking 16 off, then working 8 again, a break?

If you live for the weekend!
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