Howard University opens a new campus at the Googleplex • Hacker News Board

Re: Howard University opens a new campus at the Googleplex

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Post by 67726e » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 2:26 PM UTC

acchow wrote: post #143

67726e wrote: post #124

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> You can't have positive experiences to remove your bias if you have zero experiences. Who is to say they have any? You're implying they're somehow racist because they haven't met a black engineer? Just because of their skin color you're gonna judge 'em? Well sounds like you're the racist.

The data is telling us that we are racist - that's why we need affirmative action. I don't really understand what you're trying to say.

That's not at all what the data is "telling us." That's just your political narrative of the status quo.

Re: Howard University opens a new campus at the Googleplex

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Post by dragonwriter » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 2:31 PM UTC

67726e wrote: post #171

acchow wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The data is telling us that we are racist - that's why we need affirmative action. I don't really understand what you're trying to say.

That's not at all what the data is "telling us." That's just your political narrative of the status quo.

While this may not be the data GP is referring to, data from studies of people's responses in controlled circumstances when factors other than the apparent race/ethnicity of the person they are responding to are held constant shows that Americans, in general, are racist.

Re: Howard University opens a new campus at the Googleplex

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Post by 67726e » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 2:56 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #172

67726e wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not at all what the data is "telling us." That's just your political narrative of the status quo.

While this may not be the data GP is referring to, data from studies of people's responses in controlled circumstances when factors other than the apparent race/ethnicity of the person they are responding to are held constant shows that Americans, in general, are racist.

Can you cite your source for such a vile claim?

Re: Howard University opens a new campus at the Googleplex

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Post by dctoedt » Sat, Mar 25, 2017, 7:16 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #111

mynameishere wrote: post #107

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Quit spreading lies. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201...

First, don't address me or anyone else on HN that way. Second: this post is playing a sneaky lawyer trick. It acknowledges --- ferociously --- that there's historically been a hierarchy among European ethnicities in the US, then frames "whiteness" exclusively in terms of the early 20th century, when --- as I said --- Jim Crow and the Great Migration forced a measure of solidarity among European ethnicities against en…

> Whites surveyed in 1958 don't appear concerned about intermarriage between Anglo- and Irish- Americans? You don't say!

Family lore has it that my great-grandparents (German descent, first generation born here) were concerned when their only son, my grandfather, married an Irish girl, my grandmother (also first generation born here).