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What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Re: What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Post by TeMPOraL »

nkoren wrote: post #166
TeMPOraL wrote: post #162

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So I understand the following document is a kind of use case description of the solution your company provides? http://www.la.one.un.org/images/publications/Analysis_UN_sur... It looks very interesting indeed. Is it potentially suitable for NGOs, and if so, are there any plans of making some of it available for such nonprofits? I ask partly because I'd love to get my hands on this (and do run an NGO I could use as an…

Yep, that's exactly what it does, and indeed, we've worked with quite a few NGOs and nonprofits! If you're interested, send a note on the website's contact form. Mention that you found out about it from Nathan on Hacker News, and I'll make sure you get priority treatment. :-)

Thanks! I just sent you a note :).

Re: What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Post by ivm »

6d6b73 wrote: post #159
TeMPOraL wrote: post #77

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I see people mentioning things like "become a vegetarian" or "bike to work", but those are easy and neglible-impact things. Sure, they'd have a huge effect if half of the population suddenly adopted them, but that's not going to happen - so just going vegetarian yourself and calling it a day is not really helping anything. What I'd love to see is a list of high-impact work one could use their skills to help with. May…

What we need is to begin working really hard on creating a new society. A society where every human life is priceless, where there is no space for "race" or "sex" on the application because it's not needed.Where the environment is cared for and not exploited. Where science is respected and not just used to push someone's agenda. Where people are supported and helped whenever they need that help, but they also underst…

> "How do you propose doing that?" most people will ask - a very good question with a very simple answer - I don't know, but I'm sure that it's not something that few like minded people could figure out.

Non-profit non-government education programs. I'm designing one currently.

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Post by andrewwhartion »

foozed wrote: post #161
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This is what confuses me, if it only costs 10% more to fix the problem, why the hell is it still a problem?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think that's how carbon credits work? Paying 10% more for gas doesn't magically reduce the CO2 emitted. I would expect that at some point, someone has to actually not emit CO2 for this to work.

The carbon credit _is_ the (market-based) mechanism by which someone else has to not emit, or sequester, the CO2. [0]

Of course, it relies on there actually being a cap on carbon in the first place...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_credit#How_buying_carbo...

Re: What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Post by 6d6b73 »

ivm wrote: post #173
6d6b73 wrote: post #159

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What we need is to begin working really hard on creating a new society. A society where every human life is priceless, where there is no space for "race" or "sex" on the application because it's not needed.Where the environment is cared for and not exploited. Where science is respected and not just used to push someone's agenda. Where people are supported and helped whenever they need that help, but they also underst…

> "How do you propose doing that?" most people will ask - a very good question with a very simple answer - I don't know, but I'm sure that it's not something that few like minded people could figure out. Non-profit non-government education programs. I'm designing one currently.

Any details? Need some help?

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anotherturn wrote: post #73
NumberCruncher wrote: post #44

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>>how would you fix the oceans Use your bike whenever it is possible instead of your car. By the way it is also good for your health not only for the environment. Buy products that are produced in your neighbourhood and are not shipped twice around the world.

I don't have a car so tend to take public transport or walk. But that aside, I recall reading that heavy industry releases a great deal more CO2 than all cars on the roads and that cars are a bit of a red-herring. No source though so I could be wrong. Shipping, yes. That is a great polluter - good shout - though it primarily applies to food right? It's tricky to buy everything locally-produced e.g the mac I'm typing…

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Re: What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Post by ivm »

6d6b73 wrote: post #175
ivm wrote: post #173

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> "How do you propose doing that?" most people will ask - a very good question with a very simple answer - I don't know, but I'm sure that it's not something that few like minded people could figure out. Non-profit non-government education programs. I'm designing one currently.

Any details? Need some help?

I will post to HN as soon as it's ready to get more people on board. Now it's just dozens of drafts, we will need ~2 years more to get it to MVP since it's not full-time currently.

The main idea is to create a learning platform for 9-13yo kids, with high quality apps to learn English, basic coding, and (!!) life skills like personal finance, critical thinking, even using Google efficiently. Then you can just download and deploy it on RaspberryPi/OrangePi or old PCs in your country and distribute it to disadvantaged kids.

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Post by im3w1l »

sjy wrote: post #67
jacobush wrote: post #52

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What does that even mean?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionarily_stable_strategy

Super interesting!

Though it wasn't exactly what I meant. I just meant some people will be more and some will be less inclined to children. And that in society where people choose not to have children there will be a strong evolutionary force favoring those with a stronger drive for children.

Re: What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Post by NumberCruncher »

anotherturn wrote: post #73
NumberCruncher wrote: post #44

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>>how would you fix the oceans Use your bike whenever it is possible instead of your car. By the way it is also good for your health not only for the environment. Buy products that are produced in your neighbourhood and are not shipped twice around the world.

I don't have a car so tend to take public transport or walk. But that aside, I recall reading that heavy industry releases a great deal more CO2 than all cars on the roads and that cars are a bit of a red-herring. No source though so I could be wrong. Shipping, yes. That is a great polluter - good shout - though it primarily applies to food right? It's tricky to buy everything locally-produced e.g the mac I'm typing…

Yes, shipping your 1,3 kg mac (or whatever it weights) around the world once in his lifetime is much more harmless than shipping all your fruits from Brasil to Europe where you could buy local products. Maybe we could survive without eating mango or banana all the time.

There is a lot of finger-pointing going on. Every proposal for a solution which involves me changing the way I live is a red herring. The industry I am working in is not responsible for killing our environment. The car I drive is much harmless then the meat you eat. Turning off my TV set and reading books or going on a walk instead would not save the world until everybody follows my example so why not spend 5 hours of my free time every day in front of the screen? Everything - except talking online about what others should change in their lifes to protect our enviroment - is too uncomfortable for me so let's use Rust or Go instead of the inefficient Python because this will save the world from humanity.

Yes it will, if you work on Skynet. Otherwise won't.

Re: What fossil fuels are doing to our oceans

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Post by ge96 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #151
ge96 wrote: post #150

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I was walking one night and I noticed streetlights are always on. Why aren't they proximity detecting/linked to each other so they'd anticipate you moving to the next one. Also same with stop/go lights. I realize infrastructure. Edit: I was thinking about lights, I don't know far away sensors maybe? Not helpful if the lights are always being used (lots of cars). Liquid salt thorium reactor haha

I'd guess several reasons, or rather aspects of the issue: - proximity detector is another potential point of failure; including it raises both installation and maintenance costs - when you're walking at night, you'd like to see further than the distance between two lampposts; this would require the proximity sensor to trigger several lamp posts arond you (totally doable, I guess, but again extra installation and mai…

Yeah I heard of something similar regarding turning light bulbs on/off versus just keeping them consistently on.

It is pretty crazy how we just expect electricity to work, one day when everything is destroyed and we're back to the stone ages how long would it take to get back to where we are now I wonder haha. An offline version of wikipedia on how to turn ore into a generator. Oh well I guess we'll figure it out hopefully.

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