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Kim Jong-Nam Was Killed by VX Nerve Agent, Malaysians Say

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Re: Kim Jong-Nam Was Killed by VX Nerve Agent, Malaysians Say

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Thank you for your comment. I'm familiar with that. I'm asking about this case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropine#Side-effects

Seems like it works successfully as prophylaxis. It's only poisonous in larger doses, far below what's necessary.

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I used to worry about being "on a list" and then realized I wasn't okay with worrying about while considering myself a free person. Every time I wonder if I might get in trouble for reading, clicking, or watching something I make sure to do it.

Exactly! You can't give in to even the idea of restricting knowledge.

"Science knows no country, because knowledge belongs to humanity, and is the torch which illuminates the world." - Louis Pasteur

Re: Kim Jong-Nam Was Killed by VX Nerve Agent, Malaysians Say

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There is a fascinating BBC-documentary about chemical warfare history and the british Porton Down military research facility, hosted by Michael Mosley [0]. There is a part where the researcher actually makes sarin and VX right in front of Michael in a fume-hood. They literally watch the VX-liquid condense out of the vacuum distillation apparatus right in front of Mosley and the camera team. [0] http://www.bbc.co.uk/p…

You can also download the program with youtube-dl without a VPN.

Checked out how youtube-dl does it. Remarkably, nrk.no is satisfied with a faked X-Forwarded-For header.

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> But I do not agree with the claim that this is interesting in this context as it seems irrelevant to the discussion The discussion appears to be on the topic if we assume the topic is VX or nerve agents in general. I assume this is in line with your intention for posting a series of Wikipedia links on the subject in this thread, which I found both relevant and interesting. The reasons why I suggested that the dumpi…

>Was this standard practise back then? If so what other deadly man made products are under the ocean? https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1wa1lrqxQpPqPXwnkmJ...

Your link certainly addressed the question! Thank you.

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Would you have celebrated the assassination of Hitler if one had been performed? I know that's a stretching comparison, but it's not too far off. Dude was garbage, deserved EXACTLY what he got. Hell, NK even runs concentration camps, so it's really not even that wild of a comparison.

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Would you have celebrated the assassination of Hitler if one had been performed? I know that's a stretching comparison, but it's not too far off. Dude was garbage, deserved EXACTLY what he got. Hell, NK even runs concentration camps, so it's really not even that wild of a comparison.

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I'm merely suggesting that the comment claims to be interesting and related but because it is not directly related to the subject it seems off-topic and irrelevant.

Nor did he suggest it was. He said it was an interesting tid bit from the article. It was indeed an interesting tid bit. I also found your comment about newer practices interesting, and neither comment rebuts the other.

Ok. So why do we want unrelated comments?

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If we are talking about V-Series Agents, we might as well talk about the secret Soviet Program to develop additional V-series compounds[1] that would be undetectable by the west. It is important to note that there are many vectors of entry for a V-series agent, and in this case, evidence points to an atomized version, as opposed to the dermal administration which is more common among this class. An atomized version t…

It is worth mentioning that a powder form of nerve agents was also created during the time that these things were the fad. Mirzayanov covered the functionality of these binary powder based chems with 5-7x efficacy over VX. It would be highly unlikely for NK have functional quantities of these though. Edit: Also it would be possible to use a non-military Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor for this attack.

In reply to "Edit": Oh? Really? And might you have a compound in mind?

Seriously. Do you have inside information on a novel Nerve Agent that has not been studied for military use but is effective?

Re: Kim Jong-Nam Was Killed by VX Nerve Agent, Malaysians Say

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This is easily the most terrifying comment I've ever seen on Hacker News. You are a deeply scary human being. May I ask how do you know all of this? Edit: weird, I typically know ahead of time what's going to get downvoted. Didn't see it coming this time around. shrug

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Lugovoy, the murderer of Litvinenko is now a member or parliament in Russia with extradition requests of the UK being denied. It's pretty clear the assassination had the highest possible approval. Sometimes, things are exactly what they look like.

In fairness, Russia flat out deny ALL extradition requests for their own citizens. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/may/22/russia.lukehar... A commendable stance, IMHO. (From a most uncommendable unregime). They also have no extradition treaty at all with the US. Hence why Snowden is there, I guess.

It's certainly not legal loopholes that keep Snowden away from being handed over but a decision of one man. Russian constitution also has a lot of great things in it, like freedom of speech, freedom of association, two terms limit on presidency, immutability of borders and priority of international treaties - all of which were stomped when it became politically expedient.
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