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2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by r00fus »

Freestyler_3 wrote: post #129
otterley wrote: post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

What do you think the effect of constant charging will be on battery life in the long term?

Do you connect your laptop to a monitor without also connecting the charger? My MPB is used in 2 ways: on a desk or lapdesk without any peripherals, or with 3-4 connectors (including hub/monitor and charger).

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by to3m »

Freestyler_3 wrote: post #129
otterley wrote: post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

What do you think the effect of constant charging will be on battery life in the long term?

Probably not huge - my MBP's battery is 644 days old, and I use it plugged in pretty much all the time. So it's had 34 cycles. But it's still got 92.4% of its capacity left.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by rdslw »

CountSessine wrote: post #148
Lio wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Edit: also, Control-c and control-[ do the same thing. They're not actually the same. C-[ is the same as Esc but C-c is not. Using C-c to leave Insert mode won't trigger InsertLeave. If you select a vertical visual block and insert a comma at the end of each line E.g. C-v}$A, Using Esc or C-[ to leave insert mode will insert the comma at the end of every line in the paragraph but using C-c will only insert after th…

You can get C-c to be pretty much identical with a little remap :imap Remapping caps lock would be good too, but I already have caps lock remapped to Ctrl and I'm just used to that. In anticipation of what seemed like the inevitable loss of my escape key, I've been trying really really hard to like Ctrl-[ the last three weeks, but I've just given up. I keep opening up Ctrl-P searches or hitting Ctrl-]. My pinky just…

I aslo remap caps to ctrl everywhere.

For vim, you can map tab to being your new esc. Chances are you are using expandtab option, so actual tab usage is not big (it exists though, left here as an exercise for a reader )

Anyway im moving to kabylake dell xps 13. After 9 years with apple. Windows from 2016 gives much better linux integration. And its good to challenge yourselfe with such a big change every 10 years. Its bicycle for your mind (c) Jobs.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by moonbug »

itbeho wrote: post #91

Wifi problems on a MBP again? For fuck's sake... I'll probably make do with what I have for a bit longer or find a 2015 refurb. Or go all bohemian and spin up linux on a chromebook.

> Or go all bohemian and spin up linux on a chromebook.

Things really aren't quite that desperate yet.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by r00fus »

otterley wrote: post #75
rz2k wrote: post #66

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That looks like a good choice for a monitor. I've been thinking two of the 4K LG monitors Apple offers next to each other in portrait orientation would be nice. However, the lower UHD resolution at 27" rather than 21" probably makes a lot more sense for me if I want to be able to sit further away from the display. If my eyes are 3-4ft away, 160ppi probably doesn't even look like it has less definition than 220ppi.

We have no complaints about it, other than the price. (It's still $200-$300 cheaper than the 27" 5K display that hasn't shipped yet; but it's about $100-$200 more than an equivalent Dell display that doesn't have USB-C.) We also wish it charged at > 57W, but this monitor predates the release of the new MBPs.

I use a 60W MB charger (with magsafe adapter) with my MBP 15" at home - it has had no problems for years despite the 15" normally requiring 85W.

I remember someone saying that the nominal usage wattage of a newer MBP 15" is around 15W, perhaps double if CPU taxed.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by hyperbovine »

lvh wrote: post #53
abakker wrote: post #39

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3 sounds like a doozy. Is there any way that the average person can learn to tell these apart once they are out of the packaging, or is it really just a guess and check?

My understanding is that Thunderbolt 3 cables should have the Thunderbolt logo on them.

Steve would be pissed.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by r00fus »

kilburn wrote: post #156
diggan wrote: post #111

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Heh, that makes me think about Finder that is always open. What if Finder is the only app you have open, and it hangs?

Cmd+space (spotlight) -> calculator (or whatever) and then force-quit finder :p

It'd be nice if Apple had an app simply called Force Quit :)

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by carsongross »

otterley wrote: post #9

We bought a 15" 2016 Macbook Pro ("Retina" is redundant; there are no 2016 MBPs that lack a Retina display.) We also bought a LG 27UD88-W monitor to go with it. (It's one of the few that has a USB-C input.) I have to say, I'm really impressed by the single-cable solution. The monitor charges the laptop (57W maximum, which is less than the Apple charger, but "good enough"), and the laptop sends both video and USB peri…

> One cable. It's kind of amazing and magical if you think about it.

Apple had the one-cable thing back in 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Display_Connector

Power went the other way, but still. Crazy it's taken us this long to get back to it.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by CountSessine »

rebootthesystem wrote: post #58

It is starting to feel like the "Pro" is actually more of a consumer toy for gaming and messing with Facebook rather than a real professional machine. I need to buy a new laptop today. For development, not to play games. The unix underpinning of MacOS always made their machines attractive, expensive, but attractive nonetheless. I'll go visit the Apple store and see but it is starting to look like it'll be a waste of…

It looks like I'll make a detour over to Best Buy and get one of the high end HP laptops with 17 inch screen, full keyboard, lots of ports, etc.

In another thread, someone recommended shopping the Microsoft store for a 'signature edition' laptop; these are major-brand laptops (HP, Lenovo, Dell) with the septic mess of malware/shovelware left out - just a clean Windows install.

Re: 2016 Retina MacBook Pro Caveats

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Post by kaypro »

I just got back from returning my 15" 2.6 i7 with Radeon 450. First time I've returned an Apple product ever. The build quality of the machine is superb. TouchID, display, keyboard and SSD are fantastic. There's something going on with the GPU's... I'm putting my money on the Intel HD but the framerate is extremely slow. Just scrolling a simple web page in Safari stutters considerably. I tried using gfxCardStatus to just use the Radeon with the same results. My 2013 MBP feels considerably faster. The trackpad misses clicks just often enough to be frustrating. The touch bar is annoying. I don't get it. Moving my fingers up to tap a button takes more effort than simply doing the same function from the trackpad. Not being able to have a volume down button in the control strip makes reducing the volume more time consuming. I actually like the new keyboard but the clicks are very loud... annoyingly so. Very jarring. It's really too bad since it's a well built machine. The form factor is perfect. I think software updates will fix a lot of these issues but all at once it's counter productive for me. I'll probably wait till a rev 2 model and update to a 2015 model for now. It's too bad you can't get a non touchbar model with the faster CPU's as well. If you're on the fence I'd wait a few months at least or grab a 2015 model.
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