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Re: IRC v3

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Post by grubles »

op00to wrote: post #164
grubles wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realize logging IRC and distributing said logs can be completely automatic, right? Anyone can set that up. It's honestly kind of humorous that you find this to be such a mountain to climb.

Sure. I'll send you logs. Jump onto Slack, and scroll back. Easy.

I support open protocols and not proprietary products that make you pay to simply keep chat history (Slack deletes messages after +10,000 messages). To be against IRC is to be against e-mail. IRC has been around at least since the 80s.

Re: IRC v3

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Post by nucleardog »

CJefferson wrote: post #131
TeMPOraL wrote: post #128

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It's not "very simple" - it's just that with Slack, someone else is running ZNC for you. Chat apps don't magically "just work" - either you run your own infrastructure, or use someone else's.

Even with IRC you are still using someone else' infrastructure -- unless you run your own IRC network from scratch of course.

If you ever want to feel like you're bashing your head against a brick wall over and over, set up an IRC server with channel/nick services.

Re: IRC v3

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Post by ekianjo »

forgotpwtomain wrote: post #13

I second a comment made below regarding https://matrix.org/ . I've used IRC for years and still use it almost daily - but come on Mosh + tmux + ec2 just to have permanent chat history? I seriously can't advocate this crap to anyone in 2016. It's too little, too late.

I have a raspberry pi server that does just that. No need for ec2.

Re: IRC v3

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Post by ekianjo »

Gruselbauer wrote: post #87
Dowwie wrote: post #69

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Let me get this straight... you keep IRC running all day but you wouldn't recommend it to others because it's all nerds?

> but I don't think I can recommend it to anyone who isn't already probably using it I wouldn't recommend it to my friends, who were hard enough to get off WhatsApp and into Telegram at least. To my parents, who have trouble enough running Skype. To the girlfriend, who's happy with Snapchat. IRC, even at the very basic level with a GUI or Web client, demands things from users I don't consider realistic to expect from…

You have to take it step by step. Otherwise people keep in their backward systems or habits forever.

Re: IRC v3

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Post by Cogito »

tete wrote: post #56

Apologies for being off topic. I am happy about this story now being on the front page. However, I don't really understand how reposts work. I always thought that URLs are a unique key. Is this a way to kind of "retry" them? In this case I'd be curious about how they work. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12570201

Essentially, as I understand it, if multiple people submit the same exact URL in a short period of time, they count as votes on the first submission (this may well be completely wrong, but that is how I believe it works).

After a period of time, new submissions are their own post, to allow submissions that did not get visibility have a chance at being seen. This is also sometimes done manually by the mods if they see something particularly interesting that was missed (not sure about the last point though again, I believe it to be true).

Re: IRC v3

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Post by sudhirkhanger »

prawnsalad wrote: post #20

There's a lot of neat stuff in IRCv3 to bring IRC up to date, but most importantly it is standardising a lot of the existing protocol and patching up some of the existing warts that make pushing IRC difficult - all while being backwards compatible. Developing kiwiirc.com over the past few years to cover many different IRC servers in all different languages and using many different services/auth services has been a re…

Do you think IRC will be able to compete with likes of Slack?

Re: IRC v3

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Post by it33 »

superkuh wrote: post #117
wtbob wrote: post #114

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That's why I use Mattermost, which Slack Without the Suck™. It's free, fast, easy to use, visually appealing, supports PostgreSQL — what more could I ask for? Well, a native Android client. But other than that, what more could I ask for?

Compatibility with a real protocol, IRC, instead of just a marginal bridge. Mattermost will still splinter communities.

Just to chime in here,

Matterbridge connects Mattermost with IRC, XMPP, Slack, Discord, and Gitter: https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge

Re: IRC v3

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Post by it33 »

wtbob wrote: post #114
superkuh wrote: post #111

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Slack isn't an IRC replacement. It's business trying to embrace, extend, and extinguish the IRC protocol so they can capture the business market that uses IRC and collect rent.

That's why I use Mattermost, which Slack Without the Suck™. It's free, fast, easy to use, visually appealing, supports PostgreSQL — what more could I ask for? Well, a native Android client. But other than that, what more could I ask for?

Mattermost is working on a React Native Android client. If anyone is interested in helping, here's the step-by-step roadmap: http://forum.mattermost.org/t/react-native-roadmap/2339

Re: IRC v3

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Post by cyphar »

sudhirkhanger wrote: post #176
prawnsalad wrote: post #20

There's a lot of neat stuff in IRCv3 to bring IRC up to date, but most importantly it is standardising a lot of the existing protocol and patching up some of the existing warts that make pushing IRC difficult - all while being backwards compatible. Developing kiwiirc.com over the past few years to cover many different IRC servers in all different languages and using many different services/auth services has been a re…

Do you think IRC will be able to compete with likes of Slack?

IRC is already more widely used than Slack. So yes. A better question would be of Matrix.im will compete with Slack -- and to that I'm not sure.
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